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5 Actions You Can Implement NOW To Prepare To Reopen

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Hi, folks. Jeffrey Grossman here from Acupuncture Media Works and AcuPerfect Websites. I am thrilled to be here. Thank you American Acupuncture Council for inviting me on here to conduct a program on their To The Point live training series on Facebook. I’m really glad to be here. I’m really glad to be a participant and a presenter here. We’re going to be doing some future programs, and I’m going to be talking about creative solutions to grow your practice using simple, effective, and sleaze-free strategies. I know that marketing is something that is imperative to help you grow your practice, and I also know that as an acupuncturist, you might not be that thrilled to participate in the marketing world.

But yet as an entrepreneur and as a healer, that which you, everyone who’s watching this who’s an acupuncturist, you are both of that, you will need to participate in and embark on and embrace both hats of being the entrepreneur and the healer. My goal through this program that the AAC is putting on is to provide you with some tools moving forward to help you market your practice, attract patients, reactivate your inactive patients, and to essentially grow your practice in a way that makes you feel comfortable, that allows you to reach some of the goals that you want with growing your practice, and to achieve some of the financial goals you’re looking to obtain with helping more people in your community with this beautiful medicine.

Again, thank you American Acupuncture Council for having me here and inviting me on as a presenter. Today, I want to talk about five different actions that you can implement now to prepare your practice to reopen. I also want to talk about a couple of things that you can be doing now to pivot your practice, so when this crazy time happens again, hopefully it won’t, but my feeling is that we’ll be going through waves of what we’re experiencing now with this crazy pandemic. One of the things that I want to encourage you all to do is to consider about different ways that you can pivot your practice now so when things happen in the future, you’re already there. You’re already prepared.

You already know what to do and how to keep the patients flowing and some finances coming in based upon what you’ve doing now to prepare yourself for the future. One of the things that’s really important is that it’s important to market your practice now while the competition is low. Because a lot of people right now are pulling back their marketing dollars and all of their marketing outreach because they’re scared or they’re frightened or they want to save and conserve money. But I really feel that now is not the time to be conservative in your marketing efforts. In fact, I think you should be putting a lot more energy into that right now, and I’ll talk about a couple of things that you could be doing in order to make that happen.

One of the things I also feel is really important that you could be doing right now is to educate yourself now on what you’ve been wanting to learn in the past. Whether or not you want to educate yourself on website basics or email marketing basics or specific acupressure points or tapping techniques or things of that nature, those are some important things that you could be incorporating in your life right now during this time that we have to reset and refocus because we’re forced to stay in doors, to really tap into those things that you’ve been needing to do in your practice. Five actions that you can implement now to prepare your practice to reopen. One of the first things that I really encourage you guys to do would be to maintain your digital awareness in order to stay on top of mind awareness.

The biggest thing I want to encourage you to do right now, which many of you may have been putting off and many of you may have already been doing this already, is to evaluate your website. Now, why evaluate your website? Well, good question, because your website is the calling card that everyone is going to be looking at and tapping into whenever they hear about you. Any future referral or any future word of mouth or any type of marketing that you’re going to be doing in the future, everyone is going to be going to your website. It’s going to be important for you to take this time to use it as wisely as you can. One of the things that I suggest you do is to make whatever improvements need to happen to your website now. Here are a couple of things I want to encourage you to do.

Explore your homepage, okay? What happens when people visit your website? What is the first message that comes across to them about what you do and what you have to offer for them? Is it easy to navigate? Do you have a message that comes across to them when they hit your website? Do they know that you’re a specialist in sports medicine or a specialist in fertility or that you’re amazing in helping support immune health or that you’re really good for stress and anxiety relief? Many of you might not be specializing right now, but I encourage all of my students in my practice management class and all of the practitioners that I’m mentoring to figure out something that they can specialize in.

The reason is is because every acupuncturist is trained to be a general practitioner, which is great. We can help so many different conditions. This being a specialist means that you are able to focus your mind, your money and your communication processes and your messages on specific niches. That’s one thing I would really encourage you to do. Also, make sure that your blog posts are current and up to date. Maybe you could take some time to write a couple of blog posts now about immune health and about staying calm and about how to be productive, what points are good for immunity, what points are good for keeping you stress-free, and what points are really good for helping you stay motivated and productive. Okay?

Also, you want to check to make sure that your website has multiple calls to action. If you’ve seen any past webinars or trainings that I’ve done, you’ve heard me talk about calls to action. These are specific calls that are on your website that make people take action. Maybe you people visit your website and they might not schedule with you right away, but maybe they’ll give you their email address in exchange for a free eBook on immune health, or maybe they will click to download a low cost complementary evaluation or exam that you may be offering. On your website, you need to have multiple calls to action, little buttons that say, “Click here for this. Click here to schedule for this. Click here to download this.”

If your website doesn’t have that, I encourage you to take that into consideration. One of the first things I really want you to do is to audit your digital awareness and evaluate your website. If any of you are interested in getting a free website evaluation, feel free to put some comments in the box below the videos here and I will reach out to you. I’ll have some team members reach out to you to provide you with a free website evaluation because that’s something that we do that’s near and dear to our hearts. Okay? The next thing that I think is really important for you guys to do is to tap into some technologies now that you can learn how to use and learn how to work with your patients that you could use now and also into the future.

Because, like I said, I don’t think that this is a one and done kind of thing. I think this is the kind of thing that’s going to be coming back to us. Telehealth, that is the big buzzword these days. Doxy.me is one of the easiest platforms that you could be using in your practice. It’s really easy to set up. There’s no downloads that need to take place. Clients, they just click and they access your telehealth portal. Exploring technology is important. I think one of them would be making sure that you’re familiar with telehealth, and the other one is to do videos.

I think doing something like this where you could actually put on a camera or use your phone and sit there and educate about immune health or educate about tapping specific points for calming anxiety or stress or improving insomnia or helping to support the immune system. You have so many tools at which to educate and teach on. Don’t hold back, okay? Maybe you’re scared about getting in front of a camera or maybe you’re scared about what you should be saying. But the thing is, I feel like this whole crisis that’s been happening now, people are becoming less judgmental and you don’t need to be a model and look handsome and beautiful in order to be behind the camera.

Just showing up and being real and offering really solid content and making sure that you’re there to support your community, people will get that. They’ll really resonate that with you. I encourage you all to tap into the technology of using videos for your marketing prospects and to help grow your following. YouTube is the way to do that. There are so many different ways. You could turn on your iPhone and take a couple of videos. You could have other friends and family members or other practitioners even interview about a couple of things. One of the things I would encourage you all to do is to jot down some of the points that you know that are really great for supporting immune health, right?

You could name a few off the top of your heads, and put together a short little video. It could go something like this. Hi, my name is Jeffrey Grossman, and I want to share with you about how acupuncture and acupressure can help support your immune health in these crazy times. I’m really committed to helping people in our community to stay well and to stay healthy. Many of you might not be aware of the fact that acupuncture is really great for supporting immune health. What I want to do is I want to walk you through three acupressure points and how to use those points to stimulate immune health. That’s it. Really super simple, right? That’s one video I would definitely encourage you to do.

Also, those of you that work with herbs, what herbs are in people’s kitchen right now that can help with lung health or coughs or immune health or raising the chi in any way? I am sure you can think of some. Do a video on these kinds of things, okay? Those of you that are frightened about doing any types of video, but you want to do them, again, drop a comment below here and I’ll reach out to you because I’m committed to helping practitioners find success during this time and to overcome some of the fears that are keeping you back because this is the time to not be stagnant, right?

This is the time to tonefy and to move forward, to move your cheese so you can get out there, so when this whole thing is over and it’s going to come to an end and it looks like there’s a silver lining on the clouds right now, for many of us in the different states that we’re at. Things are going to eventually get back to normal for the most part, although there’s going to be things that aren’t going to be as normal as they are right now. I’m encouraging you to tap into these things that might make you feel uncomfortable. Because when you hit up against that wall of discomfort, you know you reached your limit, but moving beyond that is where you need to go. It’s not that hard to do. Okay?

You need support, you need some mentoring, you need some guidance, and maybe even just a short little script or some ideas on how to do that. That’s what we’re here to do and offer you. All right? Technology is really important to tap into, telehealth, putting up some videos, and also email marketing. It is the lowest hanging fruit that you have right now in your practice. Most of you that are listening to this have some semblance of an email list for your patient. Use it. All right? Tap into this knowledge. Again, if you do a video on immune health, you could use that same content to put on your website, to put on your social media pages, and to also put as an email to your patients. Because what else are you doing?

What else are they doing right now? If you’re providing solid content with them that is encouraging and engaging and inspiring, they’ll eat it up. They’ll really enjoy that. Sending emails out to your patients now is really important to stay in top of mind awareness so they don’t forget about you. Because if you’re not doing it, somebody else might be and somebody else is going to be getting in front of them. When this whole thing blows over, they might not come back to you because somebody else kind of captured their attention. Don’t lose their top of mind awareness of you. Okay? You want those people back. All right? The other thing I want to talk about, one of the other actions that you can be taking right now is to tap into your goldmine. Okay?

Now, your goldmine are the people that already know you, like you, and trust you. Those are the patients that you already have in your practice. Now, I want to encourage each and every one of you when I’m done with this video is to write a list of all of your A patients. Your A patients are those patients that you love. Whenever you saw them on your schedule, your energy raised up. You’re like, “Oh my God, I want to clone my practice with every single one of that kind of patient,” right? Those are your A patients, the ones that raise your chi. Now, your C patients, the ones when you see them on your schedule you’re like, oh my god, how am I going to do this? Okay, I can muster up that energy. It’s the end of the day. Okay, I can do this. I can do this, right?

Maybe some of you are giggling right now because you can resonate with that. Make a list of your A patients and call them. Simple conversation to have. Here it is. Hi there, Jeffrey. I am just checking in with you. I miss seeing you here at the clinic, and I just want to see how you and your family are doing during this crazy time. I also want to let you know that there are a couple of new offerings that I’ve been tapping into here at the clinic. We are now offering telehealth, and I’m hosting a class on four points to support immune health. I also want to share with you on certain specific herbs that are really helpful that you probably have in your kitchen that can help support your immunity. That’s the conversation. Just call up your A patients and just check in with them.

In my group mentoring class that I run each month, people are doing that, and the practitioners are surprised that they’re getting such a great feedback from their patients. They’re like, oh my God, thank you so much for reaching out to me. How many other doctors have reached out to you during this time? I mean, I imagine probably none. Okay? For your patients to hear from you when you’re just, “Hey, I’m just checking in and seeing how you and your family are doing. I want to let you know about some really cool offerings that we’re having here at the clinic,” that’s cool. That goes a long way. Make a list of your A patients, reach out to them with a phone call, and then with a follow-up email, simple conversation.

Really that’s all we need to have with them. The other thing I want to talk about would be consider diversifying your offers. Okay? Now, what do I mean by that? By diversifying your offers, what else can you think about that you can offer now and in future times when we might have to close our practices because of this craziness that you can offer? Can you offer herbal consult? Can you learn about EFT tapping techniques? Can you learn about specific acupressure points that you could teach more deeply and more widely? Can you learn about like breathing techniques to stimulate the chi or qigong? Okay?

What kind of off things can you offer now and in the future that you can potentially charge for, that you could teach online classes for when and if we get to this place again where you’re seeing your patients through the internet? Okay? A couple of things that you might want to consider too is offering more retail. When this whole thing is over, one of the things that you could be selling still would be herbs that get drop shipped to your patients and retail like supplements and other types of things from like Emerson Ecologics that you could drop ship to your patients. That’s a great way for you to generate a little bit of income now and to still be in top of mind awareness of your patients.

I want you to ask yourself what kinds of changes can you make today that will manifest for you now and also into the future? Because I think this is going to happen and I want you to be prepared. I don’t want you to get stuck and like become a deer in the headlights at some other point. Okay? I want you to be prepared now. Where can you pivot your practice now in order to come out of this positively in the way? Don’t get stuck. Don’t stop marketing. Don’t stop the communication process now. Stay in top of mind awareness however you can in order for your patients to remember you and to be reminded of all the good things that you have to offer them. Don’t assume that everything’s going to go back to normal because they might not. Okay?

Determine what you can do to survive and thrive during the now and also how you’ll come out of this in a powerful way and into the future. Thank you so much again for the American Acupuncture Council for hosting me on the first training that I’m working with you guys on. Thank you everyone for watching me here. You can reach me at jeffrey@acupuncturemediaworks.com or in the comments below here or even through our websites at acupuncturemediaworks.com or acuperfectwebsites.com. Feel free to reach out to me there. Make sure you join us next week for the next To The Point by the AAC. Thank you guys so much. I really appreciate it. Stay strong, stay connected, stay focused, and do not stagnate. Okay?

Do what you can now in order to manifest your future, so when this whole thing ends, you come out of this smelling like roses. Be strong. Stay healthy. Talk soon. See you next time. Bye, bye.

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AAC To The Point - Lorne Brown

Best Practices for Starting Up After COVID-19

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And again, thank you to the American Acupuncture Council for inviting me to host the practice management sessions on their webinars. Today we’re going to be talking about COVID-19, best practices for starting up after a full stop. I’m your host, your moderator Lorne Brown. I’m a doctor of traditional Chinese medicine, founder of healthyseminars.com, the clinical director of Acubalance. I’m a doctor of Chinese medicine in Vancouver and I’m also a CPA. And I got some impressive guests with me today as well. I got the chair and vice chair of the ASA, the American Society of Acupuncture. David Miller is a medical doctor and a licensed acupuncturist and Amy Mager is a licensed acupuncturist and they have been a voice for our profession. And since we have been in isolation, some of us are maintaining isolation, some of us are starting to go back to work part time, et cetera. There’s lots of moving pieces and we thought it’d be a great opportunity to have two great resources, Amy and David come here and answer some questions for us. Thank you both for taking the time out of your busy schedules to be on my show.

Thank you for the opportunity to encourage people to find the best resources for going back to work at our website, www.asacu.org. On the top there’s a COVID-19 resource page. You can click that. It’s updated regularly by our webmaster Z Elias and he’s happy to do this and we’re happy to have you go there. One of the most important documents we have there is one created by the board entitled, Contextualizing Essential Healthcare Providers and Essential Healthcare Services During COVID-19. And it’s an extensive document and we invite you to go there and find it at asacu.org.

On the ASA website that’s an important thing to kick off. There’s some resources that have been collected and is being updated daily. Now, first question I have because I want to get some practical tips for our group. You have the ASA website where you can check out these resources. David, we’ve been chatting a bit and I just want you to kind of elaborate and go back into what’s it going to look like for practitioners as we ease off these restrictions and return to work? What are you aware of for all the different states right now?

Right, I think that’s a great question, Lorne. Thank you. I think what’s important for people to understand is that this is not a stop or go kind of situation. This is not a you can’t practice or you can go back to full practice just like you did before any of this happened. This is a staged process and as people return to work, they are expected to take significant precautions in practice if they do return to practice.

And so the first piece of that is, when do you return to practice? And it’s important to pay attention to the guidelines put out particularly by your local authorities. Start with your local authorities, then go to your state authorities, then go to the national authorities in terms of when you should start to open up your practice because the distribution of cases of coronavirus are different depending on your location. And the thought from the governmental level is that in areas that are less densely affected, that it’s more appropriate for those people to start opening up their doors a little bit more. Whereas in places where it’s highly concentrated, it makes less sense to do that.

They’re watching for a number of factors surrounding that, including a decrease in the number of new cases, particularly occurring in the area and a decrease of the slope of the curve. But remembering that just because the curve is starting to go down, that’s just reflecting a decrease in the number of new cases occurring each day. But not that no new cases are occurring. If you have a 100,000 cases occurring on the peak, and as one doctor said, then the day after the peak, you might only have 90,000 new cases, but you still have 90,000 new cases on top of that 100,000 cases. And so don’t get over comfortable with opening your doors like everything’s fine.

What it’s going to look like is there’s going to be an expectation that you’re still screening your patients, that you’re checking to see whether they’re symptomatic, whether they should be dispositioned somewhere else, whether the condition that you’re going to treat them for really needs to be treated right now. And whether or not that patient themselves is a high risk person. Do they have diabetes? Do they have a congenital heart problem? Do they have immunosuppression? Things like that. Those kinds of patients, it’s more risky for them to leave the house and come out. There should be a relatively greater threshold to starting treatment with them. Think of this as a staged approach and it’s not all guns forward, just we’re going back to it. It’s going to be a gradual process that’s done very cautiously and is different location by location.

And is there a risk then that we go back to work and could this all happen and we get shut down or get pulled back?

Absolutely. That’s a yes. That’s a great point. And I actually really want people to take that to heart. All the predictors are that we will have a second surge. Because we have a decrease in our surge because we have done this isolation technique that lowered the number of new cases. But because this is so widespread, once we start interacting with each other again, we’re going to see a rise in the number of cases. And the question is, how high will that rise go? And one of the big reasons we have to do such an extreme sort of isolation in this case is because no one has any immunity to this. We were under prepared or under stocked in resources. And so it caught everybody essentially by surprise and we weren’t ready to manage it. But we should anticipate, we’ll be happily surprised if it’s not true, but we should definitely anticipate that there will be a second surge.

And as doctors at the national level, Dr. Fauci and other people have said, when you start mixing that with seasonal influenza, then it gets really hard because seasonal influenza is hard enough. And then you add this on top of it that when we get into September, October, November when influenza starts to rise and you can’t tell whose symptoms are from which illness, and you’ve got this compounded situation of two illnesses that are significant occurring at once, we don’t know whether or not there’s going to have to be a second isolation order.

But I think it’s really important for the practitioner community to not get caught twice, in being not prepared. I absolutely do not encourage people to hoard supplies. Don’t hoard things. Make sure there’s good distribution of supplies for people, but plan ahead also. Have a store of masks on hand. Have your gloves on hand. If there are herbal formulas that you prize more than others, have those on hand. Gradually build up your storehouses and calculate if you see this many patients per day or this many patients per week, how much of that do you actually need to to practice on a limited basis, most likely? But even on full force, how much do you need to practice? So that we’re prepared for that next time and don’t get caught without the personal protective equipment.

And then either of you or both of you, what can we do to prepare our clinics? What are some of the supplies and procedures that it looks like we’ll have to be doing? And I’ll add this that for the listeners, this can change on a day by day basis. What is it that you are seeing that is going to be kind of required? And then in your own personal thought process, what are you planning to do? Because there may be a minimum you have to do, maybe you want to do more. And so that’s kind of a two part question is, kind of what do you think is going to require of us? Their mask, patient mask, us mask and the distancing, so can you kind of walk us through what it would look like in a clinic daily?

It’s going to depend. I’m in a private clinic, David’s in a hospital and many of us practice in private clinics. In a private clinic, you’re going to want to have your gloves on. You’re going to want to text your patient to come in because normally we might have two, three, four people in our waiting rooms and that’s not going to be allowed to happen. You text patient when somebody’s in a room door closed, you’re ready for the next person to come. You preferably you open the door with a gloved hand, let the patient in, patient washes their hands and patient, if they’re not wearing a mask, you hand them a surgical mask. That’s one of the things we have to have on hand.

We’re going to need surgical masks, gloves, we’re going to need KN95 masks for us or N95 masks if you have them or can get them. We’re going to need hand sanitizer. We’re going to need Clorox bleach, things that kill COVID-19 because after your patient has washed their hands and you washed your hands, practitioners are deciding whether or not to use gloves. Then you take them into your treatment room. We are now in a situation where there’s no table warmers, no sheets. You can, unless you have a table warmer and a vinyl sheet on top of it, and you’re not going to put the vinyl table warmer on fire if you put it on top of your table warmer, no table warmers. Paper only. People often put paper in the middle of the table. Research demonstrates that if you cover the whole table, you’re better off. Instead of using a sheet, you’re going to cover your table with paper. You’re going to use a either a plastic backed paper pillowcase, or you can have plastic pillowcases and the paper plastic back ones on top of that.

You get your patients situated. It’s recommended that you not be in the room for more than 15 minutes, which is going to change our billing and coding and how many units we can apply for. When your patient leaves you, escort them out, preferably with your washed hands, gloved hands, and you open the door again so you have control over what’s going on with the doors in your space and what’s being touched. Once that patient leaves, you cannot bring another patient in until you thoroughly wipe down the table and every space with COVID-19 killing disinfectant. Make sure when you take, when you roll up the paper, you roll it up into the center so you’re not putting things into the room. When you take off your gloves, roll them inside before you throw them out. When you take off the pillowcases, roll them inside.

Make sure you have sanitation stations because your patient may or may not come in with a mask. You want to have a safe, clean place where you have surgical masks, where you have wipes, where you have gloves. What’s your patient’s comfort level? Do they need gloves on to feel safe? These are the things that I’m going to be doing and that Valerie Hops and Steve Shomo are going to be speaking to, from the CCAOM at our webinar next week. That ASA town hall next Wednesday night will be about this. We’re encouraging people to go to our website, asacu.org or our Facebook page, American Society of Acupuncturists to register for that link where you will not only gain knowledge, you’ll earn two CEUs and you’ll get to be a part of the greater discussion.

David, what do you have to add to that?

Well, I think that’s a great explanation, Amy, and it’s a really thorough picture of the types of precautions that we believe will be expected. That that level of mindfulness really will be the norm, we hope. And so, there’s just to generalize, there’s the patient flow questions that have to be managed, the patient spacing questions. There’s the sanitization questions. And so groups that are, practitioners who are used to seeing two, three, four people at a time and running from room to room, that’s going to be tricky. That’s really probably not going to be possible. You’re going to be doing more, maybe two rooms at a time maybe. But even more likely just one room.

I think unfortunately I think group treatments are going to be really hard to navigate for a little while because there’s just no way to control the airflow. There’s a sort of, almost a meme now, but a gif I guess was in the Washington Post of how a cough circulates in an airplane and, but even if you look at pictures of coughs and sneezes that they take, it just takes one person with a good sneeze or a good cough to fill the room with enough particles to infect everybody in a closed space.

Multiple people in a closed space together, it’s going to be very much counter to the efforts of limiting the spread of disease, which is, it’s a problem. It’s a real shame and a problem that I hope we can figure a way out of because that’s an amazing service. And yeah, so if you look back also too at the original ASA document that we produced on this, I think it’s still a very good resource, but we’re very much looking forward to in partnering with the, there it is, the CCAOM. Amy’s holding it up. The CCAOM document that that Valerie and Steve are putting together, which is an excellent, an excellent resource. And we’re doing that at the the ASA NCCAOM town hall, as we said a week from today. There may be some other opportunities to see them as well.

Thank you for that. That’s a great resource on ASA. I will share also that healthyseminars.com/resources. We have sections on COVID-19 and it’s more about the acupuncture and herbal approach in response to COVID-19. What practitioners are doing when people are, how they’re presenting. We’re not saying they’re treating COVID-19 but using the principles on how people are presenting. Still using Chinese medicine principles. If you’re looking for that kind of information, that’s at healthyseminars.com/resources.

If I could jump in Lorne, just for one sec. I do want to underscore that from the ASA perspective, it’s not appropriate for us to be sort of teaching you how to treat people on this. What we’re trying to focus on is really the practice dynamics of that and the sort of nuts and bolts about just how to do the practice. The actual treatment of these things, either with acupuncture and herbs, there are excellent resources and excellent lectures on this, but we can’t vet them all. We can’t endorse from a public health standpoint, some of the ideas. And so it’s just not our role as a professional organization. And we also don’t need to do it because there are excellent, excellent resources like Healthy Seminars has quite a few and others have done amazing lectures. Site for integrative oncology, has done some great lectures with Dr. Lu. We’re going to have Dr. Lee on. He’s going to be sharing more his experiences on the town hall tonight, I believe. Oh no, also a week from today with Valerie and Steve. And other vendors also have particular some really fine lectures.

It’s nice. Everybody’s coming together trying to figure out how to support the individual and again at Healthy Seminars, we’re not addressing the disease as much as we are working on the individual basis. David, so what are your thoughts on the safety for the practitioner? And so a couple of part questions here is, are we at risk of as practitioners, since there’s a lot of asymptomatic patients, is it possible we as practitioners can get it even though we’re doing these safety measures, washing your hands, wearing masks? And if a practitioner becomes diagnosed positive, they get sick, what should they do if they feel a fever, they feel a little off? What should they do? And if they test positive, what happens to the clinic? What kind of communication needs to happen? Because I think it’s likely that some practitioners are going to catch COVID if they’re treating the public.

Absolutely. And so, and this is the thing that makes this tricky is the long silent carrier stage with this too. That people can be walking around asymptomatic and be silent carriers. That it’s estimated that up to 50% of people who catch coronavirus will not develop symptoms but may spread it anyway. The chances of our contracting it are high. There’s no difference for the practitioner than the patient. We hope we’re being more vigilant about the things that we know spreads COVID virus 19, like we’re washing our hands better. We’re not touching our faces in between more. We’re being, more cautious in our interactions, in our physical distancing. But there’s nothing special about being a practitioner that should lead anybody to believe there’s not a high risk for them catching it just like there is any member of the public.

The bigger concern would also be that someone becomes a silent carrier and then also transmits it to many, many patients. Which gets to the part of your question that if you are diagnosed with COVID-19, you need to be prepared to contact every patient that you have seen over at least the past 14 days, ideally probably the last 21 days, and inform them that you have tested positive or developed symptoms. Now does that mean you gave it to them? Absolutely not. You could have picked it up five days ago, someone you saw 14 days ago, but we don’t know. If we’re being really rigorous and doing best practices, then we would contact everybody we’d seen for the last 14 to 21 days to inform them that this is what’s going on.

If a practitioner becomes ill, how they care for themselves of course is beyond scope of what we can advise. But certainly they want to do it in conjunction with their medical team and they want to be really aware that, while most people end up doing okay after infection, there are people who get very sick and decompensate very quickly and so just to not take it lightly. Don’t take it for granted, do do your self treatment, do do your self care, but make sure you have access to a medical team who can support you if things start to go south. And Amy, I know you’d like to say a few things about that.

You covered the most important pieces. The only other thing I would say is we really need to advocate for testing because when people are treating in the hospital, they are tested on a regular or semi regular basis. And we need to find that and make that available for acupuncturist because if we’re going to be seeing patients, we need to be able to be tested to verify that we are not passing the virus or carrying it nor passing it on to others.

Right. And I think it’s also important to know that testing is in a state of development right now. Tests are not 100% accurate by any stretch of the imagination. And so that repeated testing will be important when it becomes available. And the other thing is as another practitioner had pointed out or somewhere that if you’re right now using the test and you’re being tested and they’re swabbing you, if it was not terribly uncomfortable, it wasn’t done correctly because you’re supposed to swab the posterior nasal pharynx. The way back of your nose. That swab’s got to go up there and you’ve got to twist it and you got to do back of the throat, there should be some gagging, some discomfort. It was a little bit of a ni, ni, that’s not accurate testing.

Many things to look forward to. I want to play some scenarios with you guys. And again I just want to caution or put this out to our listeners is that you got to check in with your state health authorities and your state boards. And so these are just scenarios that I’m playing with and we haven’t rehearsed this. I want to know kind of your thought process.

I’m a practitioner and I get a call from a patient that says, “You saw me four days ago, Lorne and I just found out that I have COVID. I tested positive.” Do I have to go call my patients I’ve seen since I’ve seen that patient? Do I have to close my clinic until I’m tested? What would you think some of the scenario is? Because this is one of the scenarios that likely will happen and a patient’s going to call you because they’re supposed to, I just found out that had COVID. What do we do as a practitioner that are not experiencing any symptoms but know that we had treated a patient with COVID-19 five days ago?

That is a great question.

This is how my brain thinks. That’s the problem.

Yeah, absolutely right. Amy, did you want to speak to that?

Just to say that you’re going to have to do all of the things that David just spoke about. Because whether it’s you, whether it’s a patient, it’s called due diligence. And we can’t control this and we don’t know where it came from, and nonetheless we need to do our due diligence. What David said is what I would repeat.

Right. And what I would also add too, if I could, is that before you find yourself in that situation, it would be ideal to have a special consent form that you’re using during this time that explains to patients, here’s the deal. If I’m treating you and I turn positive or I am exposed or I develop symptoms, I’m going to contact you and tell you that this is what happened if I’m aware of it. And it doesn’t mean you caught it from me, it doesn’t mean this or that. But I want you to be aware that I’m being very transparent in what’s going on. And that if you’re going to accept coming to my clinic and if you’re going to accept a treatment during this window of time, you are implicitly understanding that there is a risk to doing that.

The only super complete safe thing is stay at home, complete isolation. Which is hard for anybody to do and maybe not always necessary. But otherwise, the more upfront you can be with people about what you’re going to do, then they won’t be surprised when you have to do it.

Right. Thank you, David. And Amy had to jump off. We knew she had a call, so her technology is good, but we knew she was only here for the beginning of it. What about, maybe we’ll finish off with a few couple comments or questions, but what about if you’ve had it already as a practitioner? You feel that you’re in the clear you’re immune or is there a chance that you still could catch it again possibly?

Right. Yeah, that is another one of the million dollar questions right now and the reason for that is, clearly we do develop some immunity to COVID, many people do when they get it. Because that’s the whole serum that we’re trying to gather from people to give to other people to help them get better quickly. You absolutely can develop some immunity when you have it. The problem is different people develop different levels of immunity, how robust that immunity is. Someone may get COVID and end up really not developing any lasting immunity. Another person may get it and develop a robust immunity, but you don’t know who you are in that process.

The other thing that we don’t know about is how long will that immunity last? Generally speaking, immunity is of duration because you get re-exposed to the critter over and over again throughout your lifespan. As we said with chickenpox for example, you get chicken pox, it actually lives in you, but your immune system keeps it under control because you get periodically re-exposed to it and it reminds your immune system to stay robust and so it stays under control. And when you stop getting re-exposed to it over and over again, then you start getting outbreaks of things like shingles because your immune system starts to forget to pay attention.

How our immune systems are going to end up behaving in the area of COVID, in the era of COVID, we don’t know because we don’t know if this organism is going to be around enough to reinforce natural immunity if it occurs. We don’t know if it will mutate. That can be another thing that happens is that you get immunity to a certain pathogen and then that pathogen mutates and finds a way around that. I think there may be some short term comfort in having had COVID and recovered, but don’t bank on it. We don’t know how long that immunity is going to last. We don’t know which one of us developed robust immunity versus really no immunity to it. Those questions are being studied right now by public health authorities, but it’s too new to know any longterm answers because this has only been around for a short period of time.

Great. Thank you very much. For information, I just want to remind people, first of all, actually let’s summarize a bit. Keep going back to your local health authorities, what you’re suggesting. they’re the ones that are really putting down the policies. The American Society of Acupuncture has information, healthyseminars.com/resources, we have a section on COVID as well for you guys. And just any last words? Oh, actually I do have a good question for you. What happens in my state or province if an allied health profession is being told that they can go back to work, but as an acupuncturist I cannot, should I be taking that personally?

Right. Yes and no, I guess I would say to that too. No, you shouldn’t take it personally and I think it reflects a certain, evolution of the field in terms of what people think of us for. I also want to add to your list, the NCCAOM has a great list of resources too. We’ve been collaborating with them, the ASA and then CCAOM is developing great resources as well and we’ll be releasing those shortly. Those should also be on your list of organizations to check with. This gets back to that question of am I an essential health provider? And am I providing an essential health service? And I think the particularly difficult thing with acupuncture is that we offer a very wide range of product so to speak. We offer everything from feel good relaxation sessions, which are absolutely not critical, although we want to lower our stress. We all know there’s just relaxation sessions and then we offer really critical pain control that keeps people out of the emergency room. We offer help for mood and emotional disorders that could otherwise end up in self harm or harm of others.

We really offer the range of services from sort of mild to severe. And so as you assess patients, that’s kind of the consideration you have. Now whether in your area you are considered this or that, is also, that was what was in place before COVID. And I encourage our state associations and for people in the US to join your state association and become involved in the process of advancing the field at that legislative and regulatory level. To some degree, I think the field wasn’t completely aware of before this crisis.

We are in this intersection of times where we have an extreme circumstance that has revealed chinks in the armor, so to speak. But we also need to be honest with ourselves about what service am I providing? Is it truly critical? Even if I am an essential healthcare provider, it does not mean that everything I do is essential right now. That’s just hubris. It’s nothing else. But some people are providing services that really are critical. They’re keeping people out of the emergency room, they’re helping them with mental and emotional health, they’re helping with fertility, they’re helping with things that just can’t wait. And then those services are at a higher tier of reintroduction.

I think one of the things that we’ve seen in some of the documents coming out, like from the Medicaid services is acupuncture is sort of a knee jerk reaction listed as a tier one not critical. But they are also thinking of acupuncture, they don’t know the level of patients that is often treated. And so they’re giving a very general recommendation that is a recommendation and a guideline and not a law or a strict rule. And so we just need to understand that. And that’s part of the educational process for the rest of the healthcare system in terms of the services that can be offered through our providers.

As we come to the end of this interview, and again, I want to thank you David for making the time and Amy who will be watching the rest of this later. Thank you, Amy. Basically it’s a new, it’s no longer, it’s a new normal that we’re going to be going into and I wouldn’t even think the word normal is correct. And so our expenses of treating, and this goes to everybody now who’s into health services has changed. There’s going to be increased costs to treat your patients. There’s going to be new regulations and policies are going to be changing regularly as we learn. And so it’s not like it used to be. How you treated before, be prepared to adapt and pivot and shift because it’s going to change. The volume of patients that you’ve seen may change also, be reduced because to do it safely you may not be able to do that volume until we figure out a way to do it safely.

That’s one thing because we talked about today is COVID-19 best practices for starting off after a full stop. I think one is getting your expectation set that it’s different and it’s going to be a little bit more effort and work to play safe and your volume is going to be down a bit. But priority safety, everybody. And then keep staying informed and educated and so you can do this practice safely. And so the ASA has put out great resources. You said the NCCAOM has some great resources. The California Acupuncture Association has put out great resources and at healthyseminars.com we keep putting out resources. And it’s healthyseminars.com/resources. Please keep checking these resources, get informed, and it’s changing on a daily basis.

David, thank you very much for your time. I really do appreciate you.

Thank you for having me.

Taking the time. And then everybody stayed tuned for, To the Point the American Acupuncture Council’s next webinar. I apologize. I actually don’t know who the next speaker is, however you can check out that website and you’ll see who’s hosting the next To the Point webinar. My name’s Lorne Brown. You can find more about me at healthyseminars.com and I look forward to you guys when we do our next practice management webinar. Thank you very much.

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Dr. Virginia Doran

The Science Behind Promoting Digestive & Cardiopulmonary Balance with Acupuncture

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– Hi, I’m Virginia Doran, your host for this episode of “To The Point” very generously produced by the American Acupuncture Council. Today our show is called A Fresh Perspective on Zu San Li, Stomach 36, and Neiguan, Pericardium 6. The science behind promoting digestive and cardiopulmonary balance with acupuncture. And I am so honored and pleased that we have as our guest today, Narda Robinson. Narda has a very interesting history and approach with this. She has a Bachelor of Arts from Harvard, Radcliffe, a Doctorate in Osteopathic Medicine, a Doctorate in Veterinary Medicine and Masters Degree in Biomedical Sciences. She’s a Fellow of The American Academy of Medical Acupuncture, Vice Chair of the American Board of Medical Acupuncture and a former member of their board of directors. She has launched the first Integrative Medicine Service at Colorado State University and for eight years has directed Colorado State University’s Center for Comparative and Integrated Pain Medicine. She’s taught a variety of scientifically-based continuing ed courses ranging from medical acupuncture and massage to botanical treatment and photo medicine. She’s a leading authority on Scientific Integrated Medicine from a One Health perspective, having over two decades of practicing, teaching and writing about integrative medicine approaches in both veterinary and human osteopathic medicine. She’s the founder, CEO and Lead Faculty and Course Director for the CuraCore MED and CuraCore VET based in Fort Collins, Colorado. And she’s also the author of a most wonderful book called “Interactive Medical Acupuncture Anatomy”. It’s very comprehensive. She has a very interesting neuroanatomical and evidence-based approach. So I don’t know how she’s done that all in just a couple of decades because it’s really quite formidable her accomplishments. So for anybody who hasn’t seen it or who can possibly get it and now that you’re home staying in place, you might actually have time to read it. I really recommend the book. You can find it on Amazon and see some excerpts there, as well as if you search on Google, you’ll see some highlights from it as well. It really adds to our field by putting a lot of the scientific point-based research altogether with the points in, it’s a book of points basically, and explains with a really comprehensive describing of the neuro, not just neuroanatomy, of all the anatomy that contribute to the points and how that actually affects the uses of it, and basically verifies what we’ve learned from, you know, classical sources. So, I guess how I found the book was a student took my class and he was an osteopath and he came up on a break and he said, “Oh, you have to see this book.” And I was kind of like, “Yeah, yeah, whatever,” he was new at it and I just didn’t expect much. And then he showed me, I was like, “Oh my gosh.” And then I had to buy it. It’s not an inexpensive book, but with the work that’s in it and the information that has been assembled all in one place like that, it’s very valuable book, I really recommend it. It can be used however you think about things, but it can help verify things for your patients and the field of Western medicine. So without further ado I’d like to introduce Narda, and give it to her to explain this from her experience and knowledge which is formidable. So Narda, thank you very much for being here.

– Thank you, thank you Virginia, it’s great to be here. We’ll be talking about, Zu San Li and Neiguan and while I am presenting a big focus on the points themselves, I am going… In clinical practice of course we use other points that are mandated or suggested by the patient’s presentation. So this is though is an opportunity to see how some of the mainstay approaches or the mainstay points such as Stomach 36 and Pericardium 6 work from a neuroanatomic perspective. So as you can see here on the left, we have Pericardium 6 in the forearm and Stomach 36 here on the pelvic limb. And just in a different form here is the individual with a different view of the hand so of course when we move around the point locations change, here’s Stomach 36, in just part of the larger context because when we again want to use these clinically for something like Stomach 36 we might want to treat knee pain, we might want to treat pain in the calf, we might be addressing immune function. But if we are working with something for digestion from my scientific neuroanatomic connective tissue approach, I am going to be interested in how stimulation of this point, whether we’re using needling, pressure, heat, laser, whatever it is, how is that going to affect internal organ function? Because I think that that is one of the perplexing ideas from Chinese medicine where we can say it balances Yin and Yang or moves Qi, but we also have information now on exactly how this is going to affect internal organ function. So the objectives for today are three. We’re gonna review some of the Chinese medicine indications and mechanisms for these two points, we’re going to identify key neuroanatomic connections between each of the points and areas of the spinal cord and, or brain. And describe how knowing the structural underpinnings, which was everything my book was about, but of these two specific points, how we can link that directly to the physiologic outcomes that happen from needling, which I as a clinician, as a veterinarian and an osteopathic physician, I appreciate knowing how the points are going to influence my patient and to know that there’s quite a bit of scientific background and backing for what I’m expecting to see. And I will talk as we go forward about how to search for scientific literature so that when you want to come up with papers that substantiate what you’re doing, that you can see how easy it is to do that. So with the images that I use in this, if they are not from Shutterstock photos that I have it mentioned here, so this is from TCM Wiki. But just looking at the stomach channel as a whole, we can see that there is often described in the Chinese medicine kind of literature, a divergent branch that goes to the organ after which it’s named. I mean I learned acupuncture from I mean a variety of perspectives. The Chinese component, the French energetics, the scientific approach, neuroanatomic connective tissue. So I had that as a background. And so this idea suggests that you have energy or Qi going into the stomach somehow and hence the stomach line is a name. And that maybe the idea from that would be that, okay, you stimulate Qi and somehow there’s a branch that takes that to the organ. But what I’m going to add to that is the knowledge about the actual structures that we can dissect and feel and test that give us objective understanding of what these sites of stimulation will do. So again, this is one of the images from my book and it’s with all the different layers on. Because what happened was this was from the Visible Human Anatomy Database and there were computer animators that put it all back together so that as I was photo editing for 15 years, I could add in muscles or take away muscles and just see vessels and nerves or organs or things like that. So by starting with the points on the surface and then going down and removing the skin layer from photo editing, then I could see the different structures that I would be stimulating as an acupuncturist, plus using neuroanatomic information from other sources as well. But this is Stomach 36, as you would see with the skin gone. And the description being on the anterior aspect of the lower leg, three cun below Stomach 35 which is up here in green and one finger breath from the anterior crest of the tibia, which we can also look at as a tibial tuberosity right here. And this is a cross section which I really appreciated learning by dealing with these cross sections, learning the different depths of muscles and fascia and vessels and nerves once you go into the skin, both from a safety perspective as well as a tissue activation perspective. So here on the left, I have cross section through Stomach 36 and I’m showing that, sometimes I’ll say cranial tibialis ’cause that’s what the terminology is as a vet, but the anterior tibial, and it points to how at least in an individual like the person that made up the Visible Human Database was, how far in depth we can go where it’s safe versus when we start to get into other structures. But the point of this slide being that research has shown also that we have all the different muscle afferents available to us at the point. So groups one, two, three and four, which have different levels of myelination and whether they are mechanoreceptors, so transmitting information about light touch or vibration or the subtle activation from an acupuncture needle or nociceptors, so they don’t have any myelin and they’re more conveying pain. So typically what we are thinking about as far as Stomach 36 for indications are have to do a lot of times with digestive things; gastric pain, vomiting, abdominal distension, diarrhea or constipation. But then some mood-based things, even epilepsy or depression or insomnia. Then of course local things for the knee pain or we have leg weakness or paralysis, maybe even a fibular or used to be called peroneal nerve injury. So just coming into acupuncture, one might think, “Okay, how does one point do all these things?” And so that’s what I loved in the process of those 15 years of putting this book together. Coming from a standpoint of just really relying on the Qi in the Chinese medicine approach with some of the scientific background in there. But then seeing as I would start with the neurologic connections local at the point and then put together where they hit in other reflex zones within the central peripheral or autonomic nervous system. It to me explained the effects that were these conventional indications. And so it didn’t leave anything more for me to wonder about. But just to review that the point Zu San Li changes to Leg Three Miles when we convert that to English, which has a lot of different interpretations that we don’t have time to go into. But the Chinese medicine description is that it will tonify Qi and blood, harmonize and strengthen the spleen and stomach, strengthen the body as a whole, and the Wei Qi raises Yang, calms a Shen, activates the meridian, stops pain. Okay, so that’s quite a bit of complexity there. And so what can we start to see? So–

– You know I always say that Stomach 36 does everything except wash windows.

– Yeah, yeah, that’s good. Or like with laser therapy, sometimes when we lecture, talk about it treats everything but death. So I guess maybe you could, I mean you say it tongue in cheek, but that’s a good point, Virginia, yes. So with Helene Langevin’s work, from the ’90s that the needle-tissue interface has been described as, as you see here being able to wind around the collagen that’s in that connective tissue, and then with that we are deforming fibroblasts which is activating their metabolism, causing them to make all kinds of changes through their structure function, just alterations, but there are also nerves in the vicinity. So while we are doing some connective revisions or interactions causing some fascial relaxation, even several centimeters away, there’s also that profound effect which is on the nerves which is neuromodulation. And that will get us into some of the analgesic effects and some of the autonomics or the parasympathetic, sympathetic or the digestive system, the Yin-Yang general balance. And then just taking this from a website talking about modulation, like what is modulation? Well, it is putting in your own signal that is going to interface with what is already there. And so you are modulating or you are changing the status, the resting tone of what that organism is going through. So that when there’s an imbalance, we can come in with our somatic afferent stimulation, meaning on the surface, the somatic afferent, the afferents, the nerves are coming into the nervous system equation and then we are stimulating it initially, but the body is going to respond with a modulating effect. So we are relying on the intrinsic healing mechanisms, self-maintaining mechanisms of the body to take our input, our somatic afferent stimulation with the needling and do what it normally does, bring it back to normal. So it’s like, “Oh yeah, right, this is what normal is.” And we’ll talk about how that happens. And it’s comprised of some neurotransmitter shifts, whether peripherally or in the spinal cord or in the brain, and then other things that happen with larger brain networks. For the analgesia or the pain relieving approach, we can distill some of it down to what happens from our input. So not a pain causing, that’s where having a nice gentle approach with acupuncture is so important where we’re subtly manipulating the needle and that is going to activate the mechanoreceptors preferentially. And what that means, so those receptors respond to light touch or vibration. Think of just a nice gentle soothing electroacupuncture. These are thicker well myelinated fibers that are important in pain control when they get to this dorsal root ganglion. So they’re the good guys. I mean the ones that convey, they’re also good guys ’cause they convey information, or tissue deformation. But let’s say you had some kind of pain elsewhere or if you needle too aggressively, that is sending information through these other types of fibers, the nociceptors. So we really wanna touch or inputs in the way I teach is to be gentle and well-received. There are gonna be some responses in the dorsal horn of the spinal cord that connect to that hand in this case. And those light touch receptors, the mechanical receptors, I think through the next side we’ll see the gate control idea of pain. They can help shut down pain influencers that are coming into that same location in the spinal cord. Of course the big complexity of the whole thing with acupuncture analgesia is that we’re gonna be affecting the whole brain and different pain networks and the thalamus and limbic system, all kinds of areas with our acupuncture analgesia. But just to distill it down right now we have those three initial areas that we’re concerned about. This is just an expansion of that spinal cord dorsal horn area where if we have acupuncture here, they have skin massage. If we just say that’s acupuncture, acupressure done gently that we’re bringing that information through these mechanoreceptors, the well-myelinated mechanoreceptors coming in here. And they are helping to block the pain impulses from on that same ultimate neuron that’s going to come up and then send impulses to the brain. So that’s just a peripheral way to block the pain impulses. This is a Stock photo. This is not necessarily how I would approach knee pain ’cause I would be tailoring it to the exact expression and location. But in general, this is electroacupuncture and I’m bringing that in because here’s Stomach 36 more or less. And they’re doing a typical four treatment before needling approach around the knee, and took it up to electroacupuncture. So if we look at knee pain, how is Stomach 36 participating in that? Well, there’s some local pain shutting down, so peripherally, but then there’s also going to be affects, I like to consider all the anatomy that’s being affected, but we don’t have really time to go into that much here. But there’s also even for knee pain going to be impulses that are going into the spinal cord so that ascending to the spinal cord and brain that are also going to be pain alleviating. And so that’s important to know from a neuroanatomic perspective ’cause we can reinforce that with points on the back and the spine that will help shut down pain information that’s being communicated in the relevant levels of the spinal cord and really reduce what we call peripheral sensitization of nerves that are going to the knee. But it’s never really knee pain. It’s we, I as an osteopath and a veterinarian, I mean we look at the whole body and what are the compensatory biomechanical alterations? Where are the myofascial restrictions? It’s really a whole body kind of thing that in clinical appreciation. But if we’re talking about digestion, one of the things that we can be aware of is that Stomach 36 afferent information is coming into the cord at the sort of the lumbosacral junction. And so when impulses arrive into the cord, there’s something called somatovisceral and visceralsomatic reflexes that we’ll look at as the next slide. Then there’s another component that goes to the brain that will cover. But seems a little bit confusing here. But let’s say we have a dysfunctional viscous, so a problematic organ in on our belly somewhere and that is sending afferent pain impulses into the cord. If those go unabated then we could get tenderness to palpation. This is the whole rationale with the diagnostic exam with the Back-Shu and Front-Mu points. So that is crosstalking with somatic or muscles, skin and subacute areas so that we get essentially spinal reflexes that are originating in a viscera of viscous. And then having a somatic presentation where we can go along the back and find tenderness to palpation and think, “Okay, is that local on the back “or is that from something inside?” And we put that together with the whole patient presentation. So there are lots of reflexes like that to consider whether we’re coming from a viscous and going into the muscles or we would come from the muscles and the external. So if we’re doing a treatment and we are involving low back points, then through these reflexes working the other way, somatovisceral reflexes, we can help to shut down some of that internal pain. So that is why I would use those baby back points in addition to a Stomach 36, I’d be palpating and seeing what’s involved. But here are typical bladder points that are associated with the spinal nerves that in my framework that somatic afferent stimulation is being picked up by the spinal nerves going into the spinal cord and having repercussions there as well as going to the brain. But if we’re talking about where’s that impulse from Stomach 36 coming, then we talked about local peripheral nerve effects very briefly ’cause of not much time and then spinal cord effects and reflexes. But then we’re gonna go up to the brain and this is really what explains a whole bunch of Stomach 36 effects. There’s a little site in the brain stem in the medulla called the nucleus tractus solitarius. Here’s just the brain stem looking at that. And the interesting thing about this brain stem center is it sits side by side with this vagus nerve, which is actually longer than this. And the vagus nerve is what is covering, you know that’s doing most of our parasympathetic nervous system. So versus the sympathetic system, which is fight or flight, this is more you’re vegging out, restorative, calming down kind of thing. And so it has effects that are going to balance out that fight or flight sympathetic system. So it’s gonna slow your heart rate, it’s going to help digestion flow and all the secretions from the gland, stimulate bile release, help regulate blood glucose, help you with elimination and digestion and all that. And for the cognitive effects, I mean, vagus nerve stimulation, so this parasympathetic medic effect is so good that it’s like they implanted vagus nerve stimulators for things like depression and epilepsy and different things. But it’s like we have the ability with Stomach 36 and some other points to actually give parasympathetic benefits because of these long loop reflexes that we now understand. And these are… So the nucleus track, the solitarius is one of the two main somatoautonomic convergence sites. What do we mean by that? This is where the somato, so the somatic input from Stomach 36 is going to join at this site in the brain stem called the nucleus tractus solitarius with inputs from the vagus nerve. So 80% of the vagus nerve that’s coming into the brain, which we just saw a bit ago, is afferent information. So the brain really needs to know a whole bunch of information about what’s going on elsewhere. And so that is coming into this site, the nucleus tractus solitarius along with information from the body of which the Stomach 36 has a nice big connection there. And then it’s like this operator here. So if she’s the nucleus tractus solitarius, she’s getting information from the Soma, which could be Stomach 36, and the viscera, which is your guts and things, and then making decisions. So, what she has to do is, well what she does, who knows how this all happen, but it because of her side-by-side connection to the vagus nerve, the nucleus tractus solitarius can up or down regulate vagal nerve output. So that means if you have constipation, you can change it and the vagus nerve can change its activity so that it speeds up digestion. So this is a structural piece of how, might call it Yin-Yang balance, but it’s how our body keeps things stable. Our temperature, our blood pressure relatively, we have these real estate centers in our brain that are in command of doing all this and keeping us alive on a day-to-day basis. And it’s really very amazing that we know this and that we can have pathways with acupuncture to deal with it. So Stomach 36 for GI problems. It’s that homeostatic balance whether we’re dealing with the long loop reflexes to the brain stem or and the lumbar segments as well. So it’s a way that we can understand how even disorders like this, which is our representation of inflammatory bowel disease. When the nucleus tractus solitarius is not doing its thing, then there is a, and with its parasympathetic effects for the vagal nerve, then things can get out of balance. And when the sympathetic nervous system, the fight or flight area takes over too much, then we get a pro-inflammatory state. So not just fire or too much Yang but its actual inflammatory state and if it’s going to affect the GI track, then we can get an inflammatory bowel condition. So by having Stomach 36 in there, then we are pushing the balance of the body to a parasympathetic level, calming things down. So if you just go to pubmed.gov you can do, see this as well. And all I did was I did Stomach 36 and NTS for nucleus tractus solitarius. And you can see various research articles, you can select for free full text if you want so that you can get this whole article for free. It’s online shopping. You don’t have to take out your credit card. So there are so many studies that support this idea that it’s a great way to move forward and to be evidence-based with acupuncture. So we just have a few minutes and just–

– You want to, I don’t know how much you have to speak about Pericardium.

– Okay

– Do you want, anything else to, you wanna discuss about Stomach 36 and do Pericardium 6 another time? Or do you wanna move on?

– No. I think we can show like that there’s another point that has similar effects.

– Okay.

– But I think we’re good. Because it has a different brain stem center for the most part and a different, I don’t know, just clinical applications. So Neiguan, Pericardium 6, again, instead of just thinking maybe there’s an energy connection there, we can look at here and its proximity to the median nerve and indication. Some of which overlap. So the nausea, vomiting piece, that’s because the fibers from the median nerve, from PC6 ultimately go to a very nearby center in the brain stem. It’s called the rostral ventrolateral medulla. But a lot of fibers go there. But some of them go to the nucleus tractus solitarius, which for me explains the GI piece here. But otherwise we’ve got cardiopulmonary indications and we can see how Chinese medicine explains it. But if we look at the science and begin again at the site, just like with Stomach 36, we know that there’s muscles and tissues and fascia and bones and here’s a cross section and especially that median nerve is nearby. But when we get to the rostral ventrolateral medulla, which is not far from the nucleus tractus solitarius, we it… that site is more concerned with cardiac, just antiarrhythmic effects and the pulmonary influences. That’s why it’s this master point for the chest. And so we look at a paper like this, for example, “Cardioprotective effects “of transcutaneous electrical acupuncture point “stimulation on perioperative elderly patients “with coronary heart disease” showing that just to cut to the chase here, that electroacupuncture at PC6 and PC4 can reduce postoperative troponin concentration so limiting heart damage and change the autonomic balance to a much improved state. And PC4 makes sense here because that was right along the median nerve if you saw that in the picture from my book before. It’s median nerve stimulation that hooks up to long loop reflexes in the brain. Here’s “The effectiveness of PC6 acupuncture “for the prevention of postoperative nausea “and vomiting in children” Again, just seeing that yes, there are brain stem connections and that is what helps us understand how physiologically, how anatomically we’re put together so that we can understand that you stimulate here and you get effects kind of body-wide or internally, and we’re not sticking needles in organs. To me it helps to really understand this wiring diagram. So the key points of all this are the anatomy or structure and physiology or function are inextricably interrelated. It’s with architecture and it’s with acupuncture and anatomy. So the more we know about the anatomy of the acupuncture points and their physiologic effects, that’s how we can better understand what the Chinese acupuncturists from way back when and Japanese and whoever else was doing acupuncture back then. They might’ve described it using metaphorical language, but if so inclined one can also understand a lot of it now scientifically. And that then informs my needling protocols, because I can take what my hands say, what my heart says and what my mind says and make treatment protocols that are very tailored to my patient based on what I feel, what I know and just a certain level of intuition but not having to have just a belief somewhere, but really having a clear expectation with objective endpoints that I can rely on. So with that , I am ready for any further questions or if you’d like, you can email me at narda@curacore.org.

– Yeah, I think, I don’t know, Alan, you can tell us if there’s any questions or if we’ll leave that for after the show. But there’s just so much you’ve presented . That’s why I couldn’t look up at the camera. I was like, my eyes were glued to the slides. Well I think we’ll, in this case, I hope you can come back another time because I feel like we’ve just touched on the surface of something’s really interesting. Some people will ask questions and they can be addressed after the show. Thank you again for coming and thank you to the American Acupuncture Council and to all our viewers and hope to see you next time. All right, bye now.

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Brian Lau and Matt Callison

Telemedicine Guide: A Low Back Case Study Matt Callison & Brian Lau

Hello and thanks for joining us today. This is the first of a series of webinars that we’re going to be doing discussing issues, topics, and featuring guests in sports and orthopedic acupuncture.

I’m here with my colleague, Matt Callison. Many of you probably know Matt. Matt’s been around for a long time. He’s sort of a fixture, especially in the sports acupuncture community. Many of you probably know him from various articles and books that he’s written. Matt is the President of AcuSport Education. He’s also the President of Sports Medicine Acupuncture Certification. He’s recently published his lifelong, really, work, it’s been over multiple decades of work, the Sports Medicine Acupuncture: An Integrated Approach Combining Sports Medicine and Traditional Chinese Medicine. Really a monumental amount of work, so a lot of congratulations goes to Matt. It’s going to be a game changer for the field. It’s so nice to see such important work coming out in field.

So, I’ve been working with Matt, initially as a student, when I took the program Sports Medicine Acupuncture Certification. Then I was asked to teach in 2014, quite an honor for me. Fortunately, despite the fact that the program is an incredible program, Matt gave me a lot of flexibility to also add and integrate information that I had coming from my field in structural integration, also in my work with qi gong and tai chi and tendon changing.

We worked to integrate a lot of work to build a model for the channel sinews. I’ve written quite a bit about the channel sinews. We feature a lot of that work in the Sports Medicine Acupuncture Certification.

We’ll start today. Matt’s going to set us up and discuss the case study for low back pain.

Brian, thank you very much, but the honor is mine just to be able to work with you, seriously. You are not only a brilliant academic, but you’ve got that combination of a true clinician and also an academic, so it’s great to be able to call you my friend as well.

Can we start the slides? Why don’t we actually go to the first slide here. Let’s talk about a quick, brief history of what we’re about to see here. This webinar is an abridged version of a blog article and also an accompanying video that shows highlights of our experience with developing, designing, and working through some of the logistical issues of a telemedicine consultation.

Initially, the information in this article and video that you can find on the Sports Medicine Acupuncture website, www.sportsmedicineacupuncture.com, blog article and also video in the April issue. It was initially intended to be presented as a live webinar, so this was like a trial run for us. We wanted to have a live webinar that contained the content for students and graduates of the SMAC program. It was intended to be a review of the recently completed module two, which was the low back, hip, and groin, held in New Jersey, which was right before actually New Jersey closed its door and the COVID-19 shutdown.

Our intention with this is try and be able to show practitioners how to apply some of the principles taught in SMAC and also our experience through telemedicine format, which was brand new for us. We wanted to go through the logistics of it and help practitioners to learn from what our mistakes and what was the best way of setting up patients, lighting, making sure the patient has consent forms, preparing the space for the patient. All of those categories that you see in the bullets here is in that article with explanation as well.

Now, the reason why we decided to publish this trial run was because the surge of demand for telemedicine consultations, we decided just to get it out there. When you do see the video, I really apologize because, like we said, this was a trial run. It was not intended to go public, and I just got out of bed. I don’t think I brushed my teeth. I have bed head. You can tell that this was a rough run for us. Brian, he’s always beautiful looking, so I’m not going to apologize for him at all with that.

Yeah, my hair looked about the same in this one as it did in this test.

What you’re about to see now, this next slide is going to be a video. The blog article and video contains us observing a patient with low back pain, which is something that practitioners could go ahead and do, asking her to perform static and functional assessments so that we get a working hypothesis of her injury and eventually develop a diagnosis, a virtual diagnosis, really.

Then, we can develop an acupuncture and motor point prescription for self-massage acupressure, and then prescribing corrective exercises based on her postural anomalies that we saw through the assessments.

Again, this short webinar is going to be the highlights of what you can find on the video and on the article. Should we go right into the video? Yeah, let’s do that.

Yeah.

It feels like here.

Okay.

And, that kind of feels bilateral.

That’s good.

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That’s like a facet joint sign, okay.

When I walk, it’s more here.

Yeah.

And then it could even go straight in here. This whole line even here and it goes into this ischial tuberosity.

All right, so with that, listening to the patient, describe this. Brian do you want to go ahead and share our thought process with that?

Yeah, I mean of course she’s just said a few words, she kind of gave a pathway of where the pain is. A couple of simple things. But you should already be starting to think what could be causing the pain, where is this next pain site coming from? And we haven’t tested yet, we haven’t done anything to rule out things or we haven’t done anything to confirm ideas. But already just from the body language, how she was saying it spreads across the back, that’s a very typical sign of facet joint injury. The referral that she was showing down, maybe not lumbar disc involvement, based on just going down to the behind, but we should definitely rule it out and check for it. Thoracolumbar junction syndrome is a common injury that’s becoming more common. Based on the pathway of pain as you’ll see in the coming up slides, that could be an issue. Sacroiliac joint injury could be an issue and also soft tissue strain. So again, we have to rule these out or confirm them, but they’re just preliminary thoughts based on her explanation of the pain.

Okay, good. So the postural observations. We observed the patient in a static and also functional positions. In the static position we asked the patient to move from left and right, so we could see the lateral view, look at the posterior view, look at the anterior sides. Just trying to gain as much information as possible. From there we surmised that the patient had the following postural disparities. She has, what would look like a bilateral anterior pelvic tilt, it was greater on the right. Slight posterior tilt of the ribcage. An anterior hip shift that we’re going to be talking about a little bit more real soon here and it’s relevance to qi and blood deficiency and kidney qi deficiency.

On the posterior view we could surmise that she’s got an elevated right ilium, also known as a left pelvic tilt. We could also see a left tilt of the L4-L5 vertebrae, which really helped to confirm the elevated ilium. Additional postural imbalances to check in the second and third office visit could be looking at the head, the scapula, the knee the feet positions and also the possible contributions to overall postural and myofascial imbalances.

Because this is a telemedicine conference, it was a little challenging to look at the entire picture, but we want to be able to see as much as we possibly could and design a protocol for her so we can get her out of pain. And like we said we can look at the other aspects on the second and third visit.

Brian we’ve got a video coming up here. Let’s go ahead and show that and do you want to chat afterward?

Sure.

What I see is an anterior hip shift.

Yeah, me too.

I see a possible pelvic rotation to the right.

A little bit of the ribcage coming back, it’s not extreme, but a little bit of the kidney qi, qi and blood deficiency posture.

I agree. Should we look at her other side?

Sure. Yeah more noticeable this side is the traction.

What I see is-

So, first of all the video clip doesn’t show the whole picture, because this was our first chance to look at her from the side view. And if you caught this Matt was talking when I was talking, that was maybe he did the recording, but not just this moment. So when we did the recording, the first time lining up sometimes you don’t see things correctly and now we have the added challenge of having a video camera and maybe the angle not being set up properly. Matt mentioned it looks like there was a right rotation to the pelvis as if the pelvis is turning and looking to the right. But as we switched over to the left, if that video would have played longer you would’ve heard us say, “No it actually looks like a left rotation.” And all the other assessments we’re doing later on we confirm that left rotation. Pelvis looking to the left.

The other main thing we’re talking about is this anterior hip shift where, if you look at this images on the screen now, especially the second image. Second and third you really see it, but the second image is the most like patient you’ll be working with. The hip is shifting anterior to a line that’s dropping through gallbladder 40. This anterior hip shift can have multiple implications, but when the ribcage starts going backwards, that’s consistent with people who have signs and symptoms of kidney qi deficiency, qi and blood deficiency. Matt presented on this information at the Pacific Symposium before, we can’t go into the whole details in the time frame that we have today, but each of these postures have a strong correlation with the various zang organ pathologies that are listed underneath them.

So this patient was most like, maybe not as severe as number two, but most like the kidney qi, qi and blood deficiency posture. I think we can go to the next slide, unless you wanted to add something to that, Matt?

Yeah, something real quick. When you see postures like this, you can pretty much predict what the tongue and the pulse is going to end up being, which is really a great thing. That helps the practitioner to direct their questioning to what organs could be contributing to this type of posture. This was a lot of research, I started in 2010, I presented at 2011 symposium and also in 2019. We talk about it in a module in the SMAC program, it itself is its own webinar for sure.

We asked the patient to show us her tongue and lighting was a big issue with this. When there was poor lighting, you can’t be able to see the tongue very well, so she was able to move her device closer to a window and we were able to see… Now obviously this is a screenshot from the video, so you can’t see it very well, but when you look at the video, that’s online at the website you can clearly see a pale tongue, teeth marks qi and blood deficiency in that tongue. Also, what’s helpful, if you have a white card you could put that card right next to the tongue, it gives a little color differentiation as well. Let’s go to the next slide. Brian you want to go for that?

Yeah, so I’ll just follow up to the tongue. The rest of the video is going to be focusing on posture, focusing on orthopedic evaluation, functional tests, that kind of stuff, which in enough themselves are testing the channel sinews. But if this was a full evaluation, and the video doesn’t reflect this, because it was really set up as a webinar for a review for low back and hip injuries. As Matt said you’d be asking questions based on multiple things that we were looking at, so looking at a full picture. We’re going to go back now to look at some of the indications that we saw from where she had pain. We both didn’t think that there was lumbar disc involvement with it, but it’s good to be thorough and rule it out.

We have the patient get on the floor and do a straight leg raise. Normally in clinic you would do this to the patient, but she was able to bring her leg up, it was negative. We asked her to do a passive one, which is more like the test you would do clinically, if the practitioner was doing it and again it was negative, but it was good to rule out that there didn’t seem to be any signs of lumbar disc involvement based on straight leg raise.

And if, by chance this was going to be a positive test, the practitioner would need to guide the patient through the different steps of straight leg raise. All right so let’s go to the next one.

Okay, so we were thinking that, with this particular video that you saw and with information that’s coming, facet joint injury seemed like it was going to be more the primary pain generator. Again, we’re just on a working hypothesis right now. We asked the patient to perform lumbar extension, because the facet joints usually get aggravated with extension. Because she has a bilateral anterior pelvic tilt, she’s already going to have a jamming of those facet joints. So the picture is really starting to make sense.

There’s two common body movements when describing facet joint pain that patients will commonly do. One is you’ll see there on the left where a fist or some kind of indication there at the spine and also that body language of starting at the spine and then going out lateral. So I believe we’ve got another video that we can watch to go see more information.

Matt, before you switch that. Just to highlight, also Matt mentioned the bilateral anterior tilt, also the elevation of the right ilium that she gets into when we look at the postural assessment. But you can see it in both those views, I would start to side bend the lumbar spine to the right and also approximate those facets on the right, which is primarily where she was describing the pain.

Yeah, good, thanks Brian. Okay, ready video?

Can you go into extension please? Does that cause pain?

Yeah, a little bit.

And where’s the pain?

Right there.

Can you go into extension please-

Okay, she already did. I have it on loop. All right, so she indicated, so we’re kind of leaning more toward facet joints. So let’s use some more examinations that can aggravate the facet. Do you want to talk about stork standing Brian?

I’ll let you continue with it, because it’s kind of a similar theme to the extension.

All right, so a stork standing test. You’re going to have to describe to your patient how to perform these tests, and this particular one because it requires balance is to have them close to a wall or a chair of course would be very useful. In stork standing test you can see how she’s going into lumbar extension and also rotation. This particular image on the left is aggravated the pain. Now here, what’s really interesting, she didn’t take her fist and put it into the spine at all, she actually went lateral. Where she’s indicating there is giving us a lot of information. So let’s go to the next slide and Brian we can start chatting about that and then set the sinew channels. Or maybe we should just say it now, do you want to describe the three sinew channels there that can be-

Yeah, so in the Sports Medicine Acupuncture Certification program we talk about… First of all we have a very developed model of the channel sinews and when you look at the descriptions or you look at images and there’s a line across the body, it doesn’t give the precise anatomy, we’re working on a model to really hone in on what particular structures are in which channel.

So when she points to an area like this, you might be pointing to the iliocostalis lumborum, that would be on the urinary bladder channel, part of the continuous myofascial plane up the body, from foot to head. Maybe deeper, because she’s also at the attachment of the quadratus lumborum at the top end. The quadratus lumborum would be on a continuous myofascial plane which is part of the liver sinew channel. And there’s also a plane of tissue that’s coming up through the quadriceps and up through the abdominals and to the side and into and wrapping around to the back, which forms a seam where all the fascia come together, that’s called the lateral raphe. And that’s affected and part of the stomach sinew channel. So there’s really three potential sinew channels that this one little spot can be pointed op based on the precise location in the back.

So this helps a lot because the practitioner’s now starting to think about those three different channels and what acupressure points that we can be able to use. Xi-cleft, luo points, for example. In order to be able to move qi and blood. Brian, I just noticed that we’re kind of running behind, because we love talking about this so much, but it’s such a short webinar. So I’m going to fly through these next four, and then we’ll get you back up on that rotation, is that all right?

Okay, sure.

So here we’ve got the injury assessment. If you look at the image on the left, these are lumbar facet joint referral patterns. So this is where the actual facet joint itself, when it’s degenerative can be able to have its own referral patterns. You can see she’s indicating the areas of L3-L4, L4-L5, possibly L5-S1. Knowing these patterns, we’re really starting to go down the road of this injury coming from facet joint, having postural imbalances which lead to myofascial sinew channel imbalances.

In addition, is that her tracing going into the gluteal area and also toward the greater trochanter, it could be thoracolumbar junction syndrome. The assessment for this is for the practitioner to actually be there on site and trying to be able to provoke that thoracolumbar junction syndrome pain by doing some mobilizations of the spine. We can’t do that, obviously so we have to try to be able to see it. When we had her go into a lumbopelvic rhythm, what we noticed on the image to the right, you can see the thoracolumbar junction of T11-T12, L1-L2 kind of pops up a little bit. It actually goes into extension. When she was moving into trunk flexion, that part of her spine actually didn’t move as well, and popped up. That could be a sign of a possibility of instability in the region, causing thoracolumbar junction syndrome. We put that into our back pocket as part of the assessment.

The practitioner can also examine the sacroiliac joint with various functional exams. We weren’t thinking it was going to be SI joint, but we might as well. We ran her through a number of different examinations for the sacroiliac joint. Practitioners that are experienced with this, you know that these particular examinations can also provoke pain in other places. Your idea’s trying to provoke pain in the sacroiliac joint, and see if that’s going to be positive, but each one of these exams also caused other pain that was indicative of possibly facet joint or hip joint problem.

And actually I don’t think it did cause SI joint pain, specifically.

Yeah, none of them did. The lower image on the right is Gillet’s test, which is a video that we’re going to show you right now. This is an easy one for a practitioner to do with a patient. Let’s show you this Gillet’s test, you’ll see that it’s positive on the left.

You really see the elevated ilium om the right, so lateral tilt of the pelvis. You can see L4-L5 tilting to the left. And then coming back to midline around L3?

Yeah that’s what it looks like. It doesn’t seem to go up really high.

Uh-huh (affirmative). So, Lily can you weight bear on one leg and then on the opposite leg, raise it at least 90 degrees, slowly. A little bit higher. Okay, thank you and down. Yeah there it is. So you could see that left hip innominate bone raising up. Brian do you want to take it from here?

Yeah, so the Gillet’s was positive on the left, the PSIS wasn’t able to drop down when she brought the hip into flexion. That does show that there is a jamming of the SI joint. We’re moving on now to looking at rotation. Rotation would just be a functional test. There would give us some ideas of imbalances of the channel sinews in the body, but it could also suggest things like thoracolumbar junction syndrome.

We’ve confirmed through postural assessment that she had a left rotation of the pelvis, the pelvis is turning to the left. It’s very typical then that the torso would start turning back towards the right. We have a seated test to be able to confirm this. Because if she has the torso turning back to the right, the tissue shortens in a way that allows her to turn more easily to the right, and it starts to pull on that shortening of tissues and the abdominal obliques as she turns to the left.

You can see as she turns to the right she has greater range of the motion. As she turns to the left she is not able to turn as far. The patient mentioned herself that she felt like she couldn’t turn as far to the left. That indicates a right rotation of the trunk in relationship to the pelvis. There are certain tissues that are associated with that shortness.

The other test on the right where she has her hands out is starting to involve more of the lats. As she turns to the left, the right latissimus dorsi has to lengthen, and she has limited range of motion, she should be able to turn about 80 to 90 degrees. Then we have her cross the left ankle over the right knee, which starts to engage the glutes and multiple things could happen. In her case she was able to turn a little bit more, suggests an inhibition of the glute max. Those tissues, the lats to the contralateral glute max communicate with each other through the thoracolumbar fascia and they can form a sort of sling through the body that can have dysfunction.

So we have shortness in the right lats, there’s actually shortness in the left lats too, which you don’t see because in the still she’s not turning in that direction. Then there’s suggestion of inhibited glute max. I think we can go to the next one.

Good. So the diagnosis and what we’ve found so far with the patient is, because of her posture and also from the TCM differential diagnosis questioning that we do not have on the video, something that practitioners can go ahead and do of course, looking at the zang organs. Kidney qi and qi and blood deficiency is her posture and also her tongue did support that as well. The questions that we had supported that as well. Long term knee pain and so on and so forth. I don’t want to go into this because our time is flying by as my light source just flew by.

Here we are. So let’s just go back. So we’ve got a right elevated ilium and myofascial channel imbalances. If it’s alright you can see that this image on the right is an anterior view, what we’ve been showing you is a posterior view. There is a particular combination of locked long abductors and locked short abductors. Locked long adductors, locked short adductors. With liver jingjin and gallbladder jingjin that has its own protocol, not only with acupuncture, but also with corrective exercises. Brian I know we could talk about this all day, but we have to keep moving.

Okay.

Brian do you want to do this one?

So this is just reviewing what we just talked about, really. That there’s rotation, the pelvis going to the left so that would mean your right ASIS is forward and the whole pelvic structure is turning to the left. And then the torso is coming back to the right. You can almost see at liver 13, the left side going down to about gallbladder 27 on the right, towards the ASIS on the right. That line from left to right ASIS is shorter than it is from the right liver 13 to the left ASIS. That shows that shortening in the obliques and that kind of tightening and screwing, and like a jar tightened too much it starts to put compression into the trunk and into the spine. So we want to unwind her with the exercises and acupressure. Also, with self-massage you want to untwist that jar if it’s too tight.

Brian wouldn’t that this is a common finding to have a pelvic rotation, also a trunk rotation?

Yeah. When the pelvis is rotated to the left, it’s unlikely that the person’s going to be working and steering themselves over to that direction. So somewhere it’s going to come back to midline, most often the trunk. If things are really locked up I guess it could be the neck, or somewhere else, but it’s more often than not it’s going to be the trunk that starts to come back on midline. It’s just part of the way that the body finds balance when there’s injury that caused imbalance, overuse or whatever it is. It’s just the way the body gets itself oriented back to the front.

This is a common posture found in low back pain. Next, here we go. Bilateral anterior pelvic tilt, more on the right. That tells us point prescription gallbladder 39 and a half and liver 4, which we really need to be able to get to soon here. We’ve got possible thoracolumbar junction syndrome. I talked about earlier, watching the lumbopelvic rhythm, seeing that thoracolumbar junction pop up, not moving smoothly in the lumbopelvic rhythm. We’re looking at a L2 to L4 region facet joint from the patient’s description of the pain and also the referral pattern and worse with extension. Actually flexion makes it better and alleviates some of the pain, so we can put that in our back pocket as far as giving corrective exercises.

The treatment plan protocol with this, putting it all together. Of course strengthen kidney qi and systemic qi and blood with this, we’ve got to be able to do this so that we can be able to hold the treatments. Otherwise, the patient just won’t hold the treatment, we’ve got to build the internal to help the external. We need to balance the postural deviations. By balancing the posture deviations it’s going to help with the pulley lever system, the musculoskeletal system, but it would also decrease the amount of internal torsion of the organs. Let’s think about also what postural disparities do to the internal organs. Decrease pain in the UB, stomach and gallbladder jingjin of the low back. That’s what we saw from the assessment.

The treatment protocol, we’re going to give acupressure prescriptions. There are ways of doing acupressure, you can find some suggestions that we have in the blog article on sportsmedicineacupuncture.com. Dietary recommendations we normally can do this. Chinese herbal medicine, let’s make sure that we can send the patient the Chinese herbs. Corrective exercises which we have the patient go ahead and do, we watch them do the exercises, make sure they’re performing them. And also qi gong exercises would be wonderful to be able to show the patient. I’m going to give a little highlight to Brian here. He’s teaching, three times a week, some really wonderful qi gong classes. If you wanted more information on that anatomyofthesinewchannels.com. You can actually have your patient go to that, it’s excellent I’ve been doing it with him for a long time, it’s really great, Brian’s an excellent teacher with this.

Oh thanks, Matt. It’s sinewchannels.com but the blog is called Anatomy of the Sinew Channels, but I don’t think that will bring it up, just sinewchannels.com will have the schedule on it. Thanks for mentioning that.

Let’s go into the acupressure point protocol. You want to start that off?

These are based on the assessment that we had, so gallbladder 41, San Jiao 5, is on the left. For multiple reasons you could think about for the channel sinews, but specifically for the Gillet’s test. Those points will change a positive Gillet’s. We do this in sports medicine acupuncture of course with needles, where we’ll do it just to highlight this where somebody has a positive Gillet’s, we put those points in and it changes instantly. That’s the good news, the problem is those by themselves, you take them out or you have the person massage them and they got it changed and they walked around for a second and came back. The positive Gillet’s will often come back. So by themselves these points have an influence on the movement of the sacrum and the movement of the SI joint, but it needs to be reinforced with a full, comprehensive treatment. It’s going to be part of the treatment, nonetheless.

I’ll go ahead and take the next one too Matt, we have kidney 3 and kidney 4. In this case you want to massage that whole region and affect the kidney low channel, because that goes through the region of the facet, it’s probably having a strong effect on the deep lumbar multifidi muscles. That can be a really good combination to reduce pain in the facets, also with the kidney qi and qi blood deficiency signs, this would be a good combination, working with that aspect too. Particularly on the right, but we have the bilateral because we weren’t able to in and palpate and put our finger right on, let’s say it was a facet in L3 or L4 that’s causing the pain, we weren’t able to go and confirm that with palpation. So we just went ahead and included that bilateral in this treatment.

I’m not sure if we’re still live or not, because it’s after the time left, so I don’t know if just you and I are doing this or if everybody’s still there. I don’t know. We’ll try to fly through this as fast as possible, because I know we’re very strict on time here.

We’re on still.

Oh, okay. Spleen 3, stomach 4 being the source or luo point combination which helps with the abdominal muscles. UB 58, liver 5, stomach 40, as we know luo points that can be able to move qi and blood through those channels when we saw the patient indicating with her fist on the lateral aspect of her back, looking at the iliocostalis, the lateral raphe tissue and the quadratus lumborum. We’re looking at the luo points there to try to be able to change that pain pattern.

Using gallbladder 39.5, which is located halfway between 39 and 40, in addition to liver 4, does decrease the innominate bone of an anterior pelvic tilt. That’s been shown numerous times, we’ve got a YouTube video on that and there’s a whole story behind that, how I was able to come up with that. Another day, another story.

You’ve got a classic point combination to be able to tonify qi and blood, calm the spirit and also move liver qi there from the liver 3, spleen 6, P6, stomach 36, LI 10. Yoga tune up balls are excellent to be able to have your patient get them. The link for them is going to be in the contact, it’s the very last slide of this presentation. We can also have that person do some massage with yoga tune up balls there, or a foam roller if you’d like. Also, having do yoga tune up balls or a foam roller on the piriformis motor point, bilateral will help to set the structure well.

Matt, I know we don’t have a lot of time, I just want to mention this will take a second, one thing. That resource it’s in the slide, but the blog post which really has the full case study on sportsmedicineacupuncture.com, and the video on our YouTube channel has the full case study, the full video. And all of those resources are listed both on the YouTube video in the description, but also in the blog posts. I think that’s what people will have… You won’t be getting the slides for the presentation, because this is very truncated, better off to look at the old blog posts, it has all the information.

Excellent, that’s a good point, thanks Brian. The corrective exercises for the initial visit. We prescribe the exercises to prioritize the patient’s postural imbalances that’s contributing to the pain. The patient had disparities which was a bilateral anterior pelvic tilt that we saw, an elevated ilium, which is going to offset the lumbars and increase facet joint jamming with an anterior pelvic tilt. And also the pelvic and the trunk rotation, we need to be able to try to be able to change that as fast as possible.

These exercises help to balance the structural deviations by activating the biao-li pairs, the internal external pairs of UB and kidney, liver and gallbladder and spleen and stomach. This is in our thought process, not only by prescribing exercises to the core and to postural anomalies or dysfunctions, but what’s happening with the myofascial sinew channels and how they communicate.

As discussed previously, also having the patient apply acupressure massage to the suggested points prior to the exercise helps the proprioceptive signaling. How do we know that, because we do that in the SMAC program. We see that consistently by using intradermal needles on points and how it changes the exercise before and after, dramatically. That’s a big one, have your patient perform these right before the exercises, that would be really good.

Here are some of the exercises that we were giving. The exercise on the left here is figure for a cross-over which is an excellent exercise to work on the liver and the gallbladder sinew channels and decrease that elevated ilium. The center image is a foam roll on some ashi points on the lock sure glute medius side, excess, localized gallbladder sinew channel. And then strengthening the weakened gallbladder sinew channel on the opposite side with some clam shells. This is not all the exercises, this is just a highlight. All of the exercises for this particular patient is in the blog article on the website, so there you can be able to see the whole thing, again this is just the highlights.

Brian do you want to say anything real quick before we go-

No, I think we’re probably getting close to time. I think that’s the last slide just real quick on the prognosis.

The prognosis, make sure in the follow up visits is in the next few days that they’re doing the exercises correctly. You want to make sure that the posture and the orthopedic and the functional exams are hopefully about 20 to 30 percent better. It’s a positive sign, also when the patient is not tracing that referral pain. They’re not doing that body language of tracing down her buttock or into the greater trochanter. Maybe it’s just going to be more localized in the back. So it’s not peripheralization, it’s now centralization which is a much better sign.

Make sure that they’ve received herbs in the mail, make sure they’re doing the dietary changes, are they doing their qi gong exercises that Brian has…

I know we’re flying through this real quick, we didn’t have very much time, but we have to go ahead and say thank you very much to the American Acupuncture Council for hosting this webinar, we really appreciate that. And also to Lesley Spencer that took a lot of time with the video and putting it all together. Brian to you as well, this was not a one day feed, this was not a two day feed or a week. We put a lot of work into this and we really hope that it helps practitioners to gain some insight to be able to help their patients during this very challenging time. Brian?

Thanks Matt, and we have the guests coming next week?

Virginia Duran?

Virginia Doran, yes. So tune in next week for that and we will be back then in a few episodes and probably with a guest and we’ll be looking at some more topics within the sports and orthopedic acupuncture world.

I want to say one more thing, there’s a lot of digital formats that are out there, platforms that you can be able to use for telehealth, telemedicine. Unified Practice subscribers, they have one that’s brand new, they’ve worked out all of the kinks, it’s actually working really well and it’s free to Unified Practice subscribers. So you might want to check that out. Zoom is a popular one, it’s got really nice features, but if you’re already a subscriber to Unified Practice you might want to go ahead and just give them a jingle and contact them and see what they have.

Thank you everybody, we really appreciate all your time.

Yes, thank you.

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Dr. Virginia Doran

Using Chinese Herbs in the Various Stages of Toxic-Heat Invasion

Hi, I’m Virginia Doran, your host this week for To The Point, a show very generously produced by the American Acupuncture Council. We had another show scheduled for today, but considering the time that we’re living in right now with COVID-19, we decided to have another guest, and that is someone that many of you will be familiar with, Jake Fratkin. He’s going to talk about Chinese herbal treatment in different stages of the virus and various practical tips of products that are available from various sources. And he’s been an educator, an author in the field for decades, and practices out in Boulder, Colorado.

Many accomplishments, too many to list here, maybe he will enlighten us, or you can see on his website. And because there’s so much information to cover, I want to turn it right over to him. So, Jake, please inform us practitioners of your ideas for Chinese herbal treatment for this virus.

Okay, I’m ready to talk. Am I on? I’m on. You can hear me. Okay, so hi, everybody. I want to thank the American Acupuncture Council for inviting me. It was kind of short notice, but I’m happy to share the information that I’ve been pursuing about how to address the various stages of the virus with Chinese herbal formulas or herbal products. Now some of you out there do raw herb customizing or work with powders and do raw herb customizing, and so about the half the information or more is going to be directed to you, because you have the ability to customize formulas to patients at the various stages.

If you don’t customize formulas, you have two choices, one of them is to get herbal products that are already made and we’re going to talk about, or to ask one of the companies that does make formulas like Crane, and Lotus, and Mayway, that they’ll make the formulas up for you to give to your patients, so that’s one caveat there. We have a lot of groundwork to cover. I am certainly not going to go into detail, but the whole PowerPoint lecture that you’re going to see can be downloaded off my website. You’ll see it. If you go to my website you’ll see it in the lower right-hand corner, the way to download the lecture notes from this lecture. So that’s what we’re going to do.

And that’s called fratkin.com?

No, it’s at the end of the lecture, but it’s drjakefratkin.com.

Okay.

D-R, no period. Okay, let’s get started.

And you know, we want to just remind our viewers if you don’t have Chinese herbal training then you shouldn’t be doing this. You will want to do everything in accordance with your license in the states where you live or licensed in. And we’re not curing, and we want to be very careful not to state or misinform our patients that we are curing.

Yeah. The COVID-19 virus is very patent-protected by the FDA. You can’t advertise that you’re treating COVID-19. You can’t mention the words, because they will go after you, so I’m just calling it toxic heat invasion and working at it from there. I don’t know if my PowerPoint’s up because on my screen I can’t see what’s exactly up. I don’t see my face yet.

They’re not up yet.

They’re not up yet. And is my face up on the screen, or no?

Allen says they are up, but I don’t see them yet.

Yeah, you have the yellow box around you, but I don’t. So I don’t know if my face-

He says we’re up.

So I want to get my face up. I want to get the PowerPoint up. So let me know when you see the PowerPoint, Virginia.

Okay.

Do you see it? No.

No.

No. Okay, let’s just start it now.

Allen, you see it, but we don’t.

Okay. In general, the worst is going to come starting in about two weeks. Some of you may be seeing corona patients right now. I am over the phone. Everything I’m doing is by phone, webinar, phone consultation, and then I’m working from the material to send people herbal products. Now the way I work is I combine herbal extract powders. I use extract powders, and when I make a formula I make 100 grams. So I never like to make a formula that has more than 10 or 12 ingredients in it, 12 would be my max just because in 100 gram mix, you just can’t get the strength of enough herbs if you go more than 10 or 12 herbs. In a decoction you can put in 20 or 30 herbs, they don’t care, you just add it to the pot.

Virginia, do you see my face or no?

Yeah.

You do? [inaudible 00:06:30].

He’s saying that the audience can see things that we can’t.

Okay. All right. So I’m working with 100 gram powders and the formulas that I’m going to show are very large, they’re huge formulas, 15, 20 herb formulas, so I really recommend that if you have training in Chinese herbs, don’t give the whole formula unless you’re going to do raw soup decoction, which most of you don’t do. If you’re going to do powder extractions, then you have to whittle down the suggested 15 herbs or so into 10 or 11 herbs or so. So that’s up to you. I would not go the full formulas that they’re recommending unless you’re doing raw herb. If you don’t do powders or custom, then you default to the products.

Now, we’re going to have some products to offer, they’re not going to be as strong as these other formulas. Virginia, do you see my PowerPoint up?

Yes.

Okay, good. So these things come from two sources from China, one is Guidance for Coronavirus Disease. This is a wonderful, 140-page manual. It’s actually available on eLotus down here. I think they have a download so you can see the whole thing. Which if you’re a raw herb prescriber, there’s a lot of notes in there I’m not including, so you might want to get that document. The other document is what John Chen and Lori Hsu did, which is called, How COVID-19 is Currently Treated in China. So there’s two Chinese sources we’re working with here.

The first group is called Medical Observation Period. There’s been no lab confirmation of COVID. This is where people suspect, they have a couple symptoms, they’re not sure. So we divided those into two groups, not we, the Chinese. One is fatigue with GI upset, so there’ll be some diarrhea, there’ll be some abdominal cramping. There may or may not be fever. There’s fatigue. The formula of choice is Huo Xiang Zheng Qi Pian. These are, if you go to my book, this book which we’ll talk about, it has all the manufacturers of any formula, so it says Huo Xiang, it’ll name every manufacturer that makes it. Another phase will be-

Including American brands?

Yeah. It’s mostly, in this book there’s only GMP formulas.

Okay.

It’s only products made, pretty much put together in America, or they’re GMP otherwise. So the other one is fatigue with fever. We can’t get any of these recommendations that they’re talking about, but they’re very similar to one of these three, Gan Mao Ling, Zhong Gan Ling, or Yin Qiao. If you are not familiar with those, my book will talk about them in detail. Now for what they call confirmed or highly suspected cases, they throughout, they have this foundation formula so I can’t see… yeah, it’s hard to see the ingredients there, hard to see the ingredients. Can we move the pictures over a little so-

No, we can see.

Oh, okay, okay. So the lung-clearing detox soup is kind of like a foundation formula that they will use in all cases, mild to severe, but this is too many herbs. You have to reduce them according to how much heat you see and how much dampness you see. So this is really going to be an interplay between heat, between dampness, and between toxic heat. So toxic heat are herbs that go after viruses, and regular heat is heat in the qi, so for example Shi Gao is used a lot to bring down fever. So in this stage there’ll be coughs, there’ll be maybe some dampness. And then, of course, kind of a foundation there, Xiao Chai Hu Tang. If you’re going to work with products, probably the best combo here is Xiao Chai Hu Tang, mixing it with something called San Ren Tang, and not a lot of people have San Ren Tang, so I think you can mix it with Huo Xiang Zheng Qi Pian, Xiao Chai Hu Tang and Huo Xiang.

But as you’ll see when I go back to my other references, you always want to give toxic heat herbs, so you can always use these Gan Mao Ling, Zhong Gan Lings as part of it. Yin Qiao’s not strong enough, but it’s helpful in other ways.

I just want to ask a question here. Some people are getting it or at least starting with more of a wind cold damp scenario.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We go into that.

Okay.

Okay. So now in the early stage where it’s mild, there’s two presentations that I’ll show, cold dampness into the lungs, and the second one is damp heat into the lungs. So for cold damp they’re using this formula. Again, if you’re making it, really reduce it. You can’t put all these into a 100 gram bottle, there’s no way. They recommend Ephedra in all these cases, Ma Huang, which we cannot get in this country, so I’m substituting Cinnamomum, Gui Zhi, instead. This will reduce heat, it’ll dispel wind, and it will clear damp, so it’s a good general formula, cold dampness affecting the lungs. There’s maybe slight fever, it’s not real bad. There’s some cough, the chest is tight. The key symptom is nausea, nausea. So if there’s nausea, we think that there’s a damp accumulation and the stomach qi is not descending, so this formula addresses that.

If you’re going to do it with product, you use Huo Xiang Zheng Qi with something called Jing Fang Bai Du, which is in my book. For the heat stage, still the difference isn’t the fever, but now their body’s very achy. You have headache, you’re achy. There’s a dry cough, maybe a sore throat. The mouth is dry, the chest is tight, again, nausea. The stools could be loose or constipated. So this one is more cooling with herbs like Huang Qin and Lian Qiao, Qing Hao, Ban Lan Gen. So now we’re really starting to address the heat toxins, the viral toxins, Isatis, Ban Lan Gen, Forsythia, Lian Qiao, plus you also have a Xiao Chai Hu Tang basis in there with Chai Hu Huang Qin. For products, can use Xiao Chai Hu Tang with either Gan Mao Ling or Zhong Gan Ling for that stage. This is early, still considered an early stage.

In the general stage, now this is the bigger stage, it’s not hospital-level, but this is where people are sick. So this stage is called damp toxin, stagnating the lung. The fever is now starting to go up. The cough is getting more. There’s difficulty breathing. The abdomen is uncomfortable. The tongue will probably start to be more red with a slight yellow coat, but not always. Tongue doesn’t always, tongue confirms, but it doesn’t rule out. If the tongue is not red or not greasy it doesn’t mean they don’t have this, it just means it hasn’t shown on the tongue yet, so don’t require the tongue to confirm. But if it does confirm, then more power to you. The pulse is more rapid and slippery due to heat. Again, they’re using Ma Huang, again I’m substituting.

Now we’re addressing cough with Xing Ren and getting heat out of the lungs, Shi Gao, so there’s still an attention to dampness. If you have to go with products, you want to use Huo Xiang Zheng Qi, but now we’re going to use Qing Zao Jiu Fei, or things like that. I’ll talk about this stage a little bit in a minute. Cold dampness, no fever or very low fever, but again you have this cough and chest tightness and nausea. But the tongue is not red, the pulse is not rapid. And we give this, which is much more addressing cold and dampness, and again here we can use Ban Xia Hou Po Tang with Ge Gen Tang or Gui Zhi Tang. Ge Gen Tang and Gui Zhi Tang will push out the wind cold, Ban Xia Hou Po will neutralize the phlegm and dampness.

All these are on these notes which you can download from my website. Now when it gets really severe, this is the stage people want to go to the hospital. In two or three or four weeks, the hospitals are not going to take everybody. There’s going to be someone at the door saying, “Okay, you, not you.” It’s because they don’t have the beds. They don’t have the beds. Here the fever is high. This is the lung blocked by epidemic toxin. This is where the viral toxin really cranks, and this is usually seven days after their first symptom, after their first symptom of feeling fatigue and achy. After about seven days it’ll crank, and you’ll get a high fever with redness, a harsh cough because the heat now is going into the lung.

There may be some sticky phlegm, there may not. Very hard to breathe, painful to breathe. Dry mouth, there may be damp symptoms such as nausea. Now a lot of these Chinese formulas come out of Wuhan and Hubei, very damp place. Now if you live in the East Coast, that’s going to relate to you. I live in a very dry area in Colorado. We don’t see that much, we just don’t see that much dampness, but here they’re very sick. Now we have high fever, harsh cough. This is the recommended formula. They’re still trying to get rid of wind cold with Ma Huang and Xing Ren, but they’re moving again to Shi Gao. It’s a very similar formula. If there’s constipation, you work with the Da Huang, and here we can use Chai Ge Jie Ji Tang combined with Bai Hu Tang and Liang Ge San.

I talk about who has these products later. Flaring heat in the qi and yin is beyond just the lungs, this is very high fever. People will be trying to get into the hospital, but there are going to be people turned away from the hospital, and this kind of has a Bai Hu Tang foundation, Shi Gao, Zhi Mu. They’re using Shui Niu Jiao, which you’ll only get if you’re a raw herb herbalist. I think you can get this by powder form. Okay. They have cooling herbs, Xuan Shen, Lian Qiao, and Huang Lian, Lophatherum and Zhu Ye will bring down systemic heat. So if you have fever, this Zhu Ye is an important herb and Shi Gao is an important herb. You’ll see on the raw herbs that they’ll be going 30 to 60 grams in a decoction. That’s a lot. That’s a lot.

We’ll never approximate that in a extract powder, you’ll never get that much. But I would, on an extract powder, do at least 12 grams of Shi Gao. Here we would use Bai Hu Tang with either Gan Mao Ling or Zhong Gan Ling or one of the other anti-viral formulas that I’m going to talk about.

Critical stage, you’re not going to see this. This is where they’ve collapsed, they’ve collapsed. They’re not going to survive without a ventilator. The TCM people are recommending the combination of Ren Shen and Fu Zi for collapsed yang and qi, Shan Zhu Yu to bring it into the body. You won’t be seeing these patients. They’ll be in the hospital or dead.

Now my recommendations for illness with fever, you want to use heat toxin herbs. You want to use Wu Wei Xiao Du, and here’s the availability. This is everybody that carries that product. This is how my yellow book is organized. I’ll take a formula, I’ll say, who’s got it? So an asterisk means it’s based on, it’s a variation on a theme. Chuan Xin Lian is very good anti-viral, it’s a three-herb combo of Isatis, Ban Lan Gen, and Andrographis, Chuan Xin Lian and Tara Xacum, Pu Gong Ying. These are all the people that have it. Gan Mao Ling, here’s who has it. Zhong Gan Ling, here’s who has it. But there are a lot of products that are in my book that people don’t know about. All of these are anti-viral, all of these products.

I put asterisks in the ones that I think are stronger and more appropriate. Okay, Seven Forest has a lot of these products. They have Patrinia 7, Paris 7, so on. But all these companies, and then Golden Flower has Viola Clear Fire, it’s a great, great product. But all these are good, and they’re just heat toxin herbs, so you add this into what you’re doing. Let’s say you’re on a Huo Xiang stage, but you want to get the heat toxins, the virus, you really have to default to one of those or one of these. Those are very important to combine heat toxin herbs with the more classical formulas.

Lung fire, this is a painful, barking, dry, harsh cough. Qing Zao Jiu Fei is helpful, Huang Lian Shang Qing is helpful, and Qing Fei Yi Huo is very helpful. American-made products, Seven Forest has two products, Bellamcanda 15 and Stemona, they’re very good for heat. I have a product called SVP Lung. It’s good, it sort of like medium. And then here’s the codes, if I said GC it means Guang Ci Tang, if I said GF, it means Golden Flower, so on. These products can be found at Crane, Golden Needle will have them, other distributors will have all of them. But-

And what are you hearing about availability with the demand?

Don’t know. It’s not yet running out, but it will be. That’s why if you have a raw herb pharmacy or extract granule pharmacy, you can work with that. I had trouble getting some extract granules from my supplier so I went to another supplier and was able to get what I wanted. You can either stock up, or you’re going to reach a point where you’re just out of herbs. eLotus, that’s John Chen’s and Tina Chen’s group, Evergreen, they translated numerous articles from China for treating COVID-19. This is that link, or you just go to their website, eLotus.

And they have a wonderful hour and a half free presentation about it, when-

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So this sums up their information. So they took a document called How COVID-19 is Currently Treated in China, they translated it. They divided that into four phases, prevention, influenza, pneumonia, and recovery. So I’m just summing up their stuff here because they give a lot more detail, but pneumonia prevention number one, they had this formula. Influenza phase, they said patent medicine you can combine Ge Gen Tang or Chai Ge Jie Ji Tang. I would combine it with one of the anti-viral formulas based around Gan Mao Ling. Flu formula number one with headache, with dry throat. These are not strong enough in my mind. They’re good, but I would combine them with a strong heat toxin formula that we just talked about.

Then toxic heat attacks the lungs, they give a recommended formula. This is a good formula, I like this formula. Damp cold in the lung, it’s not going to be acute. I mean, it might be. It’s a difficult differentiation here, because when they’re feverish, you think everything is heat, but here there’s more of the damp side, the distension, nausea, diarrhea. Remember in China, they have a lot more damp presentations than they have in most places in America, but that’s their recommended formula. With this again, you could default to Huo Xiang Zheng Qi or Ban Xia Hou Po Tang.

I understand that the testing of people’s lungs who had severe cases of it, they found like thick, rubbery, congealed phlegm blocking the airways. So yeah, phlegm is really important to treat.

Pneumonia phase, this is a special phase. It’s kind of a Shaoyang stage with accumulation of damp. Herbal formulas you can use are Xiao Chai Hu Tang, San Ren Tang, or Gan Lu Xiao Du. Pneumonia phase, again it’s Xiao Chai Hu Tang with some, it’s sort of like what you see up here but in a customized formula. Finally, damp heat, another pneumonia formula. You download this, print it out, keep this as your reference. Now these are smaller formulas, so you can just make this just like it is, changing these doses here for soup. You have to adjust that for 100 gram bottle if that’s what you’re doing.

Toxic stagnation, this is where there’s a lot of fever, here’s the formula. You’ll have to look at it and look at it closely. This is the end-stage abandonment. You won’t see this, this is definitely in the hospital or dying. These patent medicines you cannot get anymore in the United States. I had them in my original patent medicine book, An Gong Niu Huang and Zi Xue San for fever that’s killing you. And you can get them in Chinatown, but you’re not going to get them from any of the GMP-type distributors.

This last phase is just collapse. It’s ginseng Ren Shen and Aconiti Fu Zi. There is a recovery phase, and they’re basically recommending Sha Shen Mai Dong Tang as a recovery formula. That’s available. A lot of people have it. Here is if you customize it, that’s how you would do it. All right. So all those products that I mentioned, they’re in my book. You can see who’s got it, you can see what’s the applications, what are the contraindications, what’s the historical origins, and so on. I guess that’s about it.

The handout notes are available from that link, which is drjakefratkin.com/toxic-heat-invasion/. But if you go to my site, it’ll be on there. All right. Virginia, any questions?

I really want to thank you for putting this together on such short notice and bringing your expertise. Your original patent book was the first book I read on Chinese herbs in the early ’90s before I studied it in-depth and it was really invaluable, and now I’m glad to see that you have another, more in-depth version. You really contributed a lot to the field, so I want to thank you for that, as well as what you’ve done for the show and what you’re doing right now.

Only one thing I want to say about this book. I made the mistake of not calling it essential Chinese patent medicines because it’s just about products that are available in our country, so there’s 133 classical formulas, and 83 modern formulas. These modern formulas, people who just study the classics have missed out on what China’s been doing since 1950, which is developing a lot of new products. The best ones have come out as patent medicines, so there’s 83 of them in this book that are GMP. Everything in this book is GMP. They’re GMP in China, but then usually a lot of them are tested when they come to this country. I can guarantee you they’re clean. There’s no heavy metals, there’s no pharmaceuticals, and so on.

And a lot of companies sell these, and so you want to look at this document and stock up on what you think you’re going to need, okay? All right. Thanks for your time. I hope this was helpful, and I want to really thank American Acupuncture Council for sponsoring these shows and for giving me an opportunity to talk and share my information. And it’s not mine, I just compiled it, I just compiled what’s out there.

And for people who do have an hour and a half to watch John Chen’s webinar, it’s really useful, and he gives some research studies behind things. And he talks about how, for practitioners, it’s really early-stage and recovery that we are probably best apt to treat and most likely to be treating. But it’s good to know this, because as you say, if the hospitals are full, people will be desperate for something. So I’m grateful, and thank you again to the American Acupuncture Council, and we will see you again soon.

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Moshe Heller & Stephen Cowan

Phlegm – Etiology pathology and treatment Moshe Heller

Hi, my name is Moshe Heller. First I’d like to thank the American Acupuncture Council for hosting this show, and providing this really wonderful platform for writing information.

I’d like to start talking today, and today’s lecture would be, I will talk a little bit about pediatric phlegm, or phlegm in general. I want to just have a short discussion about etiological factors, pathology, and also the treatment. Since phlegm is actually a very, very common thing nowadays because of, as we know, a lot of … The flu is very common and upon us. As disease progresses, I see many children presenting with phlegm presentations in the past few weeks.

Let’s start. I think the slides are on, and you’re seeing it. The first thing I’d like to just talk about is that … Why do children actually have phlegm, or tend to have phlegm? There’s a famous saying that children produce phlegm very easily, and there’s a few reasons for that.

It all starts with the fact that, actually, children are born with very weak spleens. We assume that, at the beginning of their life, they will always have spleen vacuity. That presents with their tendency to have difficulty digesting, also having very soft stools. That’s a normal thing for them, and that’s a very clear sign their spleen is deficient. Therefore, when you have a spleen deficiency, dampness can easily accumulate and therefore transform into phlegm.

Also there’s another saying that the exterior of children is not secure, and they contract pathogens very easily. WHen the child contracts a pathogen, it influences the way that the lung functions, and the spleen. Therefore, also, the end result could be an accumulation of phlegm, or dampness and then phlegm.

There are a few other supportive factors to the production of phlegm, and one of them has to do with … What I see very commonly now is that the feeding schedule is not as … Parents tend to feed babies on what we call “on demand”. Therefore their scheduling of feedings are random, and sometimes cause this eating on various times, and end up a lot of times overeating. That in itself can also cause an issue with or become a burden on the spleen, and therefore produce more phlegm.

Also, as the children grow, and we start to introduce new foods, a lot of times wrong foods can be presented to them. Meaning either they’re too cold or difficult on the digestive system, and that could be because one of the most common thing is introducing fruits earlier on, or too early. As we believe in Chinese medicine, that fruits are cold and therefore can really burden the spleen, also.

There’s also the issue of formula. I think that sometimes the formula is very heavy and is actually over rich, and therefore not so easy to digest. A lot of children, once they’re put on formulas, actually start developing phlegm. It’s a very interesting thing to watch, because we have then the issue of, what to we do if there’s no other sources of food, and we have to look at different formulas as solutions?

I also want to mention one other thing that’s really commonly seen in my office is that a lot of times antibiotics are given inappropriately, meaning that … Antibiotics definitely have a place and a time to be used, and they are very important. Nonetheless, if they’re used inappropriately, they can produce a dampness very easily because of their nature. As we know, from a Chinese medical perspective, antibiotics are cold and bitter, and therefore they are hard on the spleen. If we have a cold condition, and it’s a cold exterior condition, and we give out antibiotics, the end result will be that there will be some phlegm developing, or damp and then phlegm.

How do we diagnose? How do we know that there is phlegm in the body? Sometimes in children the easiest way is that we see it. As we saw in the first picture of the slides, sometimes it’s very visible, but sometimes it isn’t. If there’s no discharge, there are other telling signs that are important to realize.

One thing ends up as a result of this, especially if the phlegm is stuck in the sinuses, the child becomes a mouth breather. A lot of times we’ll see that their lower lip is a little saggy. Especially if they’re trying to concentrate, you’ll see that their lower lip opens and falls down, and it doesn’t shut down. A lot of times it will also result with some more drooling, or a tendency to drool, heavier if they’re at the teething age.

We have this drooped lower lip, and then mouth breathing. Then we can hear them breathing a lot of times. Another telling sign is snoring at night. Snoring at night usually indicates there’s something that’s blocking, and that phlegm is one of the causes of snoring in kids. Mouth breathing, heavy breathing, or snoring at night, those are all really strong signs.

Of course, palpating the lymph glands is a very important diagnostic procedure in children, because if the lymph glands are swollen, that’s a really strong sign that there is some phlegm accumulating, and a very particular type of phlegm, which we’ll talk in a second. Then, also, the actual history itself of the disease. If there’s chronic sinusitis, or chronic ear infection, or tonsillitis, all these are signs that maybe there’s this phlegm that’s lingering, and is a part of the pathology of the disease.

Another thing that’s really important to use as a tool is listening to the lung sounds. That’s something that, if you’re seeing children, you should probably have a stethoscope with you, because listening to the lung sounds can help in your diagnosis, another sign that can help you in the diagnosis of the patient.

For example, if you hear wheezing when you listen to the lung, you know that that is a constriction of the bronchials. That means that there’s Chi stagnation. But, if you hear crackles, crackles are the sounds like little balloons popping, that is a sound that there is phlegm in the lung. I use it as a diagnostic technique. I listen to the lung. If I hear those crackles, I know that I’m going to need to clear phlegm from the lung.

I want to go over two patterns, this is diagnostic patterns, that are very common in children. The first one I want to discuss is accumulation disorders. We discussed this many times before, but I’m just want to remind you that a lot of times accumulation disorders are the reason that children are presenting with phlegm.

What it is is that … It’s like food stagnation in adults, but its difference is that this could be just from either overeating or eating things that are very difficult for them to digest, and then that accumulates in the stomach and creates this heat and phlegm. The heat symptoms manifest with these red cheeks that are there all the time. This is heat rising from the stomach, and you’ll see these little, almost like stop lights, with the two red cheeks. They’re very distinct. It’s a sign that the digestion is a little overheating and stagnant.

Of course, that will also affect their … They’ll be a little more cranky and irritable, and maybe have difficulty falling, or staying, or waking up frequently. These children don’t sleep as well because something’s not digesting well.

Of course, once these fluids go up and stagnate, they can cause phlegm to accumulate. Then you’ll see this green nasal discharge, exactly like you saw in the first picture. Then you’ll probably see cough involved with it that is very rattly, and maybe some slippery coughs. These are all phlegm signs that come from the accumulation disorder.

When we recognize or diagnose accumulation disorder as the source, we always need to think of Si Feng as the treatment points. Of course, Stomach 36, Stomach 25, and CV-12 are also really important to help, and San Jiao 6, which really helps to move the Chi and resolve the blockage in the digestive system. These are all really important points, but the main treatment point will be Si Feng.

Then the formula that you might be considering has to do with helping the digestion. I have a great formula that’s based on Bao He Wan in my new motion line. I have a website that will be at the end of the slideshow. You can log on and look at digest. It’s a really fantastic formula for supporting the digestive system in situations just like that.

The other aspect is lingering pathogenic factors. Lingering pathogenic factor, a lot of times either cause phlegm or are the phlegm itself. When we diagnose lingering pathogenic factors, we usually have three types or three syndromes under that. One is more of a deficient kind that’s a little more rare, and it involves spleen Chi deficiency. The other one is called retention of phlegm, and retention of very thick phlegm.

We’ll go over the last two just to remind you how we diagnose them. When we only have retention of phlegm, usually you’ll see that there’s this recurring infection, and it can be anywhere from the sinuses, to the throat, to the chest, to the ears. There’ll be a lot of phlegm or discharge from the nose, or cough with a gurgling or rattling sound. There’ll be mouth breathing, like we discussed earlier. There’s emotional state where they want things, but they don’t really want them. They’ll say, “I want this,” but when you give it to them, they’ll throw it away. That’s a very typical sign of that. Then, also very choosy, and wanting only sweet or white foods.

Sometimes you’ll see a manifestation of that phlegm on the stool itself. That’s question we have to ask parents. How does the stool look? Does it change color? Have you noticed any changes in … If there’s this glistening, or it’s a little bit shiny, that’s a sign that there’s phlegm in the stool. Then, of course, enlarged lymph glands, which is really a very important sign for the lingering pathogenic factor.

When it becomes thick phlegm, there’s a lot of the same symptoms. A lot of times the thing that triggers me is that, when I ask, when we discuss the illness history with the parents, they’ll always say a sentence like, “Since their illness, they haven’t been really the same.” The underlying mechanism is that the child’s character is altered or really changed. There’s something either subtly or really more significant change in their character.

Then, that’s very typical of that, when we think that phlegm is becoming so distinct that it actually changes the spirit, or changes … With an adult, we’ll say that there’s phlegm blocking the heart orifices, and then the Shen is not as clear. That’s when we start seeing that in children.

A lot of times there’ll be two other signs that I want to say. They’ll have these energy crashes. They’ll suddenly have periods where they just are really cranky, and they only want to really rest. Also it is sometimes associated with intermittent abdominal pain. These are all signs of the lingering pathogenic factor with very thick phlegm.

The treatment, when you recognize that, is combination of four points, Bai Lao, which is an extra point in the back, UB13, 18, and 20. This is the basic protocol. Sometimes I combine it with the Shao Yang combination of Gallbladder 41 and Triple Warmer 5. Also I will palpate UB43. If it feels very full and excess, I might needle that also.

The main form that I use for that is a combination of Xiao Chai Hu Tang. We’ll talk a little bit about Xiao Chai Hu Tang, because it’s not the first formula that you would think for phlegm, but I found it really helpful with many children, especially with children, to resolve phlegm. I guess because [Ban Xia 00:21:00] is in that formula, but it really is a mild way to resolve phlegm. Helps the children resolve it. I’ve used it many times. You can see that, once Xiao Chai Hu Tang is used in its correct formula, you will see a slow drying of that phlegm, and the symptoms are reduced. I really want you to remember Xiao Chai Hu Tang, especially with kids when they have phlegm.

I want to give a case example that I was treating, actually, a few days ago, last week. There’s this two-year-old boy that came to my office that the parents were saying that was experiencing back-to-back ear infections. Again and again, the ear infections would repeat. Also it always comes with fever and pain. The child really is two years, but still is talking already, and expressing pain in the ear. He mostly tugs and pulls on the left ear, but both ears is something that he’s experienced.

His mother says that everything was normal during pregnancy. The delivery was fine. At the end he needed to be vacuumed, but he was healthy otherwise. Around nine months of age, something around then, she had to stop breastfeeding, go back to work. Although she was giving him formula beforehand as a supplement, at around nine months, around that time, formula was a the only thing she was giving, of course and the introduction of solids.

At that time, there was a lot of dairy products that were introduced. That created a lot of wheezing, or he started to have these episodes of wheezing, almost like asthma. Went to the doctor, the doctor gave steroids in a nebulizer, an inhaler. That really calmed the wheezing, as the mother was reporting.

Then, a few months later, he got another really bad cold. Then that developed into an ear infection, and he was given antibiotics. Since then, it’s been repeated ear infections and rounds of antibiotics. Last round of antibiotics was about three weeks ago. He was given Amaxicillin, and he is currently still complaining of ear infection, although there’s no fevers, which the mother was relieved. She took her to the pediatrician a few days before the appointment, and there was still accumulation of fluids behind the ear drum. The doctor was saying that they may need to consider doing ear plug operation. That’s why they were looking for an alternative way to treat him.

The mother was saying that the baby is a very picky eater, and in the last month they were trying to get him off of dairy, because they thought that that could be a problem, and that’s why he’s having the ear infections, which I agreed. We also agreed that, from now on, they should probably stop wheat.

Bowel movements are two to three times a day. The mother thinks it’s pretty normal, and they don’t seem to be too soft or hard. He doesn’t complain of stomach aches. But, his sleep is not good. He wakes very frequently. He drinks a lot of water throughout the night, and also the mother reports that he’s addicted to the pacifier throughout the day. She’s wanting him to stop, or trying to wean him off of that.

On examination, I found submandibular lymph nodes that were positive or enlarged. His finger vein, which is something that I observed, was very dark, which means heat, and wide. That means that the pathogen is strong, and it’s reached the wind gate. It hasn’t really penetrated extremely deep. Therefore we could address it by resolving it on the [Yan 00:26:43] layers. I’ll explain in a second. Also, when I was examining him, it was clearly that his breathing was heavy and he sounded very congested.

Out of that, I was very clear that his diagnosis was that he had what we call thick phlegm LPF. I believe that it had developed from what we might call a food accumulation, or an accumulation disorder prior to that. I needled the points San Jiao 5 and Gallbladder 41. That is a combination I use for ear infections, because when we address the Shao Yang, it opens up the flow of Chi around the ear. That could be, in itself, the treatment for the ear part of the disorder.

I also added Bai Lao UB13, 18, and 20, as we know, because of the lingering pathogenic factor. I also prescribed Xiao Chai Hu Tang. The first days after the treatment, I got a report that the child was sleeping much better, which was I think a very important sign to see.

I’m running out of time, but I wanted to just mention a few formulas that we usually use for phlegm. Including Er Chen Tang, is an important basic formula for phlegm that we know. Sometimes you can combine that with Xiao Chai Hu Tang. I usually think of Er Chen Tang when I see a spleen deficient at the background of the phlegm accumulation. If there’s spleen deficiency at the background, Er Chen Tang is what I would think for.

Ban Xia Hou Po Tang, another really important formula for phlegm. The difference between that and Er Chen Tang is that Er Chen Tang is more spleen-y, and whereas Ban Xia Hou Po Tang is more liver-y. If the spleen is really deficient and is the cause of the phlegm accumulation, then we can use Shen Ling Bai Zhu San. Or, if there’s an accumulation disorder at the background, Bao He Wan is the choice. As I mentioned, you can check my variation of Bao He Wan in the motion herbs website.

There’s other two formulas I just want to mention that is related to cough. Qing Qi Hua Tan Wan is the famous phlegm heat, or sometimes called Pinellia Expectorant. That clears phlegm heat from the lung. That’s when you have a lot of this cough, which is productive with yellow phlegm. But, if there’s more phlegm dryness, we think of Bei Mu Gua Lou San as the formula for resolving phlegm and dryness.

I think that’s about the time that I have for this presentation. Thank you very much for joining me, and I hope we will meet again in our next session.

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