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The Scope and Opportunity of Oncology Acupuncture

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Hello, everybody. I am Dr. Yair Maimon, and I would like first to thank the American Acupuncture Council for hosting this show. Today I will focus on something which is very close to my practice and my experience, which is oncology acupuncture. In the last years, I can say there’s been an amazing opportunity for acupuncture because there is so much evidence and because we can do so much for oncology patients. So the whole field of oncology has been opening up. I’ve been practicing all my life, also in hospital setups and being a head of oncology, integrative oncology acupuncture departments. So I can see both from my practice, I can see from the response of the other oncologists and regular medical care that is seeing more and more the importance of acupuncture in this field.

It’s almost hard to believe how much we can help in oncology. I can just tell you it just now I’ve seen a patient, I’m still just after my clinic, she came with so much pain. She has a sarcoma in her lower abdomen that was just removed. Recently. She came all kinds of hunched in with her husband and I said just lie down, and I just need column four, stomach 37, stomach 39, and waited a few minutes. And then she started to look at me and said, “Wow, this is the first time in days that I’m back to my power, back to myself,” and this kind of changes, especially in oncology, because the patients are very deficient. They’re very weak.

We’ll talk more about the indications that we see. They’re responding both extremely well, they’re able to tolerate their cancer, their treatments, cope better with the disease emotionally and mentally. So to me, this has been an amazing kind of journey, which I didn’t really plan, but I saw how much I just found myself doing oncology acupuncture is … Actually, especially because about almost 20 years ago when I started, everybody were afraid of treating oncology with acupuncture. I was in China, saw the amazing results and went back and started to treat patients. And since then, I’ve been treating a lot of oncology patients, doing a lot of research. If you’re interested, you can read my research. I have more than 20 peer reviewed publications, most of it around the oncology, but also around other areas. So in this talk, I would like to speak about the opportunity and the scope of oncology acupuncture, because the scope is quite remarkable. So, I will start with the slideshow, please.

First of all, the reason there is so much awareness about oncology and the field of acupuncture is because we get more and more evidence. The amount of evidence is even … I think even people are practicing Chinese medicine and not aware to the amount of evidence of the effectiveness and the safety that oncology acupuncture has. So, first I’ll say just some words about evidence, because when people say evidence, they always expect human studies, comparable studies in human, but the world of evidence, I just want to point out, is actually based also on clinical experience. It’s based on patients and patients’ report. And also obviously the best external evidence that we can have, by peer review by different studies that were done. Oncology is one of the really robust area where there’s more and more studies that are repetitively showing their effectiveness.

When we’re talking about studies, we’re talking about the pyramid of evidence, and in the top of the pyramid there is systemic reviews. Under this, there is the randomized controlled trials, then there’s cohort studies case reports. So, all of these are building the evidence that is trusted in Western medicine. And one of the things that we have to understand that the higher we go on this pyramid, the strongest the evidence of what we are showing and what we are knowing. So for us, it’s really translating then what we know in the clinic, which has been known for years to be effective, into a scientific kind of objective and reflection. So I just want to point out that if there is enough randomized clinical trial, you can do a systemic review. It means you can take a lot of trials together and look at them from above and see if a field is effective.

From a scientific point of view, it’s a very kind of robust and high way to look at Chinese medicine. So I decided to start and we’ll talk about especially the amount of studies that are in oncology acupuncture, also to show you there’s quite a lot of studies in the acupuncture overall. I just recently looked, there’s 32,000 studies in PubMed and I think around about … I can estimate around 1400 studied just in cancer care. That’s quite a lot more than usually people would think there is.

When I want to talk about the scope, I would like actually to show one of the quite recent, it’s only been around for a few years, one of the systemic review of the effectiveness of acupuncture on related therapies, [inaudible 00:07:05] acupuncture, and it’s an overview of systemic reviews. So this is like, if we talk about systemic reviews, this is even one above it, and it was published in one of the publications of Nature, Scientific Report. We have a very high level looking at effectiveness of a field and on the scope of a field.

Let me explain. This is the overview of systemic reviews. This is this paper that I’m going to present. It looks on systemic reviews, which is based on individual studies. So, if there is enough individual studies let’s say on nausea and vomiting, they do a systemic review. Enough studies on pain, they do a systemic review on the studies on pain. In this one there’s been enough systemic reviews, so it overviews them. In this study, they took 23 systemic reviews, which included almost 250 individual research studies and about 17,000 people who have been involved in these individual studies.

So, this is kind of quite a big pyramid to look at the way acupuncture is effective in oncology. So we are looking really at the top of the top of the pyramid, really this kind of tip of the pyramid. We look at 23 systemic reviews, which is looking at almost 250 individual research. Most of them are actually randomized clinical trials, and it looks on a population of 1700 cancer patients.

This is the type of scope that they’re looking at. So there is enough research. It doesn’t mean that everything reached the level of saying, okay, the evidence are extremely conclusive, but there is enough research in these areas and that shows you the scope of acupuncture in cancer care. So, if you look at fatigue and by the way, if fatigue is one of the most common. Almost all cancer patients suffer from fatigue, either chronically or at some period, and acupuncture is extremely effective in relieving fatigue. This in itself is a phenomena. And then reducing those and vomiting, but also in leukopenia. These three I marked in red here, because in this systemic reviews, they found out that these three indications have enough scientific rigorous studies to show the effectiveness. So just these three are quite impressive. So we see the effect in fatigue. We see nausea and vomiting, which is related to a lot of chemotherapies and other therapies that patients are getting. And also sometimes for the cancer itself, if they’re in the digestive system, and to reduction of leukopenia, white blood cells.

I’ve done extensive research in herbal medicine for leukopenia and in neutropenia. So, Chinese medicine is very good in really protecting and invigorating the bone marrow, which is producing the white and red blood cells. Then cancer related pain and pain is accompanying many cancer or cancer treatments. Hot flashes. We’ll talk about hot flashes in this show or in this lecture. Hot flashes is side effect, especially for gynecological cancer and breast cancer, because many of these patients are receiving anti-hormonal therapy and suffering from severe hot flashes, which are really every part of it. But this is just a good example. And I’ll talk about it more extensively later. It’s really reducing the quality of life, and sometimes to the point where patients want to stop the anti-hormonal therapy, which has its own effect, because the quality of life is diminished.

Then hiccups. I had a few cases of hiccups that nothing stopping it and believe me if you have hiccups all the time, it’s a real terror. So this is like … and the acupuncture can stop it just usually within a treatment or two. They’re quite rare, but if there are, remember that acupuncture is very effective. Improving patient general quality of life management, management of the xerostomia, which is the dryness of mouth, especially from radiation. There’s many studies on this. Acupuncture is one of the effective treatment for that and large intestine too, which I extensively also lecture about studying of the large intestine, too. It’s actually been proven to increase the salivation in the mouth and it’s good, not just for cancer, all of it. Also, when you learn how to treat it, you also learn how to treat it in other patients that suffer from these symptoms. The same with shortness of breath.

Lymphedema actually hasn’t shown up to be extremely good, but was studied extensively. This is where the lymph system is not working well, especially for patients with breast cancer, that some of their lymph nodes were removed, so they have this kind of [inaudible 00:12:46] edema and lymphedema, so they tried acupuncture for it. I generally don’t treat lymphedema, but it was part of what they reviewed in this study. Then general improvement of physical wellbeing. So, you can see quite a lot of indication that there is a lot of studies. Like I said, the top ones are the ones that there is enough evidence to say that we can conclude that this intervention, which is acupuncture, is helpful, but the scope is actually what we see in the clinic and the scope is what you see coming up more and more in different research.

One of the most important things is safety, and acupuncture has been strongly proven safety, and here is a study of 1700 people that says that there is no serious side effects that were reported in any of the studies. So, acupuncture could be considered as a very safe complementary in cancer care. When we’re talking about any intervention to medical system, then there’s two concerns, efficacy and safety. And definitely for safety, we are winning. There’s more studies on safety actually, but this study is just a great example, which is specific for cancer care, showing the level of safety that acupuncture has. To us maybe it’s obvious, but if you communicate with the medical community and you can say this word, we have proven safety, it is very meaningful. That’s what I find acupuncture is now, and especially in the United States has been practiced more and more in different medical centers and hospitals, and it provides today the knowledge and ability to treat oncology patients. I think it’s a great opportunity for acupuncturists and I’ve been extensively teaching courses and specialization all around the world and in the States. If you’re interested, probably follow my website and see when a course is coming soon and if it’s interesting for you.

Even when we look at the NCI, the National Cancer Institute, I can say overall acupuncture has been reviewed in a very positive way. You have to read it always because it’s updating, changing. I’ve been following this webpage so I can see there is always the work there, but just for the scope also they’re stating that cancer patient is using acupuncture and they’re giving you the scope from pain management to nausea, vomiting, fatigue, hot flashes, dryness of mouth. Neuropathy is another big field which has been proven that acupuncture is helping neuropathies, these kind of pains and lack of sensations that patients get, especially from chemotherapy and especially from different taxanes and other chemos. If it’s become chronic, it is a really debilitating condition and acupuncture is one of the best thing to help it and also help to recover from it to prevent a chronic state. There’ve been a lot of studies on the neuropathy.

Anxiety. The whole field of anxiety and the whole field of emotional side, this is very close to my heart and practice. To me, acupuncture is a transformative medicine. It can really transform on the very deep level how patients to get in touch with their Shen, with their spirit. And one of the worst thing that follows cancer patients is fear. It’s understandable for a certain period, but it’s definitely taking away one’s power from getting healed and even the opposite. When there is a lot of fear, to me, the prognosis is not good. I see very difficult patients with difficult cancers in very difficult stages. When I see no fear there, I know they will do well. Even if they won’t live full span of whatever we can say about life, they will have a better quality of life and they will exceed usually what is expected. In my clinic, we’ve been looking at many patients and we recall there is a lot of what you call exceptional patients. I think exceptional patients, a lot of them, are due to this connection of Shen to the body and that’s where healing is really coming from.

So, acupuncture has been studied for anxiety, depression, but also general wellbeing and also sleep. So obviously if the Shen is disturbed, the sleep is difficult. So this is from the NCI. You can go, there is more evidence there. This is just for the scope of this lecture. I’m more talking about scope or opportunities. We don’t go deep into all their research projects and all the research that we have. And even they’re showing the laboratory animal studies on different aspects of cancer care and they show that acupuncture has a very strong effect on the immune system, on immune regulation.

Immune modulation is really the key thing. If you help the immune system to reach a better balance, you are helping another also pathway of treating cancer, helping another way of patient to avoid secondary infection, to deal better with their medication if they’re taking. You’re preventing a lot of other potential side effects. Now we are seeing different pathways, how acupuncture is affecting immune system and in animal models there’s been a lot of studies that has been out there, but there’s also a few studies in humans. One of them is from Dana-Farber Hospital. That was part of Harvard Medical Center that was published by Weidong a few years ago, but we see more and more studies coming up on the effect of acupuncture on immune system and obviously I, a lot of time, combine with herbal medicine or specific formulas which I am studying.

From the JCO, the Journal of Clinical Oncology, again if you want to talk about scope, especially with oncologist or medical team, you have to quote very reputable journals. This is definitely a very reputable journal. It has a lot of studies on acupuncture, surprisingly. This was a systemic review of acupuncture, not the one I liked the best, but again some papers you like the design more than others, but again it’s a good review and you can see more showing the scope. So again, most of the things that we talk about are coming up, but there is prolonged postoperative ileus, which is another area of study. A lot of patients, and especially cancer patients, undergo surgery. And because of the anesthesia, there is lack of bowel movement. So acupuncture can really increase bowel movement. And that’s also what I find in the clinic. We have a very strong effect on bowel movement and a lot of patients are suffering from constipation because of their antiemetic medicine or because of their cancer or other disturbances, especially lack of appetite, which is sometimes the killer because people are really dying from malnutrition.

So, acupuncture has very strong effect on the justice system. So I brought also the scope, to show the scope from different studies. So this is a systemic review before I’ve shown systemic reviews and also the NCI view on that field. So you can see from many different directions, what we call conventional points of view. It’s quite surprising how acupuncture is accepted and is looked into the science that we can see by now. Even when I looked at clinicaltrial.gov, where you register clinical trials, there is almost 150 registered trials on oncology acupuncture. So there is a vast amount of effort in proving the efficacy of acupuncture in oncology and even some phase three trials. Phase three means … Usually a trial will go from a pilot, phase one, phase two. That’s randomized clinical trial. Phase three means there is enough people to compare between two groups, usually placebo and real or control and real.

And after a phase three trial, in Western medicine, it’s almost a level of this is what patients should get. So this is like beyond any doubt that this intervention is proven effective and that’s when we talk evidence. So we see that acupuncture is moving up in oncology acupuncture in phase three trials and this is a very interesting. I’m actually now in the midst of taking all the trials that we have until now and putting it into a book, which is evidence based oncology acupuncture. It will summarize the trials, but not just would summarize, but also would show the acupuncture points and what we can learn from different trials, if there’s interesting acupuncture points that we use. And also the frequency. I think many times we have to understand the frequency of treatments and when we don’t see good results, a lot of time it relates either to the frequency of treatment, the design of the trial.

So we are now kind of compiling, me and a colleague of mine, Dr. [inaudible 00:23:13], are compiling all the current and the good trials to see what we can learn from them as far as points and the evidence and then also that you can show … learn for yourself, but also show people who are in regular medical care the amount and kind of depth of studies in oncology acupuncture. I want to go to one trial. I like it very much. Also the people who did it, to me, very active at the SIO, which is the Society of Integrity of Oncology, both in their clinical practice, in their acupuncture. We have a special acupuncture group there and a research group and Eleanor Walker, she’s the head of the department of radiation oncology in Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit, and she carried a few trials with her team. They’re very good team there.

This is not … It’s one of the what we call older, if there is such few years as older, but actually it’s not true. It’s still very relevant. I like the trial, and I like that the design and also what we can learn from it. So I would like to share with you this trial and some points that we use, so maybe there’s some take home message from here. There have been few trials on the same idea of the reduction of hot flashes, and especially the reduction of hot flashes in cancer patients is important because it’s very common, especially in breast cancer and other gynecological cancer, especially if they’re hormone sensitive, to give this patient anti-hormonal therapy, and this anti-hormonal therapy creates different side effects.

The main one is hot flashes. The other one is joint pain. Both have been shown to be effectively treated by acupuncture. Many patients are stopping their treatment, this anti-hormonal treatment, which is designed to prevent reoccurrence of their cancer because of the side effects. So we are both increasing their quality of life, but also allowing them to adhere to the treatment, which is important for them. And so in this trial, although not big, but they’re interesting, they did what we call it head to head trial. So, they compared venlafaxine, which is an irregular SNRI drug. Here we call it Effexor, so I’ll call it Effexor, comparing to acupuncture. So it’s a head to head, drug intervention compared to acupuncture intervention. So you’re looking which one is more side effect, which one is better. But interestingly enough, they also follow this trial a year later. So, this was 12 weeks. So for 12 weeks, patients receive either acupuncture or venlafaxine and they looked at different outcomes and they measured it also and followed one year later. So, after 12 weeks, both were stopped and then they’re following up the effect, if there is any of the effect in the group of the acupuncture or of the venlafaxine.

So the results, especially immediately after when they administered both the acupuncture and the drug, both groups had significant decrease in hot flushes, so both were effective, so they had less symptoms and better quality of life. The first thing is acupuncture was as effective as venlafaxine, so that’s quite impressive. But two weeks after the treatment, when they stopped the both acupuncture and the drug, there was an increase in hot flashes in the venlafaxine group, but not in the acupuncture group. So, in the acupuncture group there was still a effect of the treatment also two weeks after the it was stopped, while in the drug, once you stop the drug, you stop the effect. Which carries always a lot of thought about acupuncture, because acupuncture is a curative medicine. It’s not a palliative. So it doesn’t just affect that the moment that you are given the treatment. It changes something in the body, allowing it better healing mechanism.

And when we look deeper at the result, venlafaxine had a lot of adverse effects. So there was nausea, dry mouth, dizziness, anxiety. There’s a lot of symptoms that patient that took it experienced. While with the acupuncture, there was no negative side effects, even the opposite. They had some additional benefits like increase in sex drive in some women and most reported improvement in their energy, clarity of thoughts, a sense of wellbeing. This is from the real article, so this is a good reflection on the total effect that we see from acupuncture, which is different than drugs. Again, for us, an acupuncturist, people who do Chinese medicine, it’s obvious. But believe me, to see this kind of results in a trial, in a high reputable journal, it is very impressive and to me, it’s the beginning of a change. Beginning of a change that the scope of our medicine and the effectiveness are viewed in a different way.

That’s why I’m I call this a lecture the scope, but also the opportunity. Once you see more and more respect to this form of medicine, there’s a greater opportunity for us, both to effect patient, and to enter into a best care. And to me, the best care is always integrity of care. So the conclusion, acupuncture is appeared to be equivalent to the drug therapy in these patients. It is safe. Again, we see safety, effective and durable. Treatment for vasomotor symptoms, which means hot flushes secondary to longterm anti-estrogen hormone used in patients with breast cancer. So, this kind of summary, this kind of a conclusion in this type of journal, it’s definitely meaningful and meaningful to the whole profession. Now let’s look at the points they use. I mean, nothing outstanding, but they did a good design, which means they gave … Some points were all the acupuncturists used and some were like secondary points that the practitioner could choose a point according to the condition.

And to me, this is a much better design of trials than fixed points because we know acupuncture, we don’t give the same treatment to all the patients. We adjust and we do personalized medicine. So if you do a trial, you can take this aspect out and suddenly create a fixed treatment and just hope that it’s always worked. I can talk about it quite a lot. I think in herbal medicine, some things we can do. In acupuncture, certain places maybe a little bit. But overall a better design is a design like this, which is closer to real life and closer to good acupuncture when we are able to adjust and tailor the treatment to the patient. So they use different points. I kind of group them in my own way. The grouping is my grouping in the article is just a list and explanation.

So when there was more Yang, probably more Heat, they added Du-14, especially if there’s a lot of Heat in the patient. Or Du-20 to [inaudible 00:31:56]. If there mores Qi complaints, then use stomach 36, Ren-6 and Lung-9. And I put Hun, but a lot of mental side and difficulty in sleeping can be treated through the Hun. I extensively teach about the Hun and palm and how they interact, and I think it’s a core understanding of how to use points in Chinese medicine. So gallbladder-20, liver-3 for pains and for Hun and for the liver, and for the Shen, pericardium-7 and heart-7. So this is the points that they could choose one point out of this in order to make a personalized approach. It was carried for 12 weeks at the beginning, for the first four weeks, twice a week, and then another, I think, four weeks, once a week.

So this is kind of completing a good … I think 12 sessions is a good period to have a sustainable change. And I mean sustainable, when they looked at one year later there was still difference obviously between the group and still many women that got this 12 week treatment are experiencing the benefit of it and also in general wellbeing. So, I think this is impressive. Again, there’s more trials, but if you want to follow me, you will see me talking about more trials and more possibilities how to treat oncology patients. But I think it is showing the scope, showing the opportunity and really strengthening this, that we can feel very confident about the effect of acupuncture and especially in this group of patient and for these kind of conditions.

So I would like to finish up with one of my mentors, Father Larre. I was lucky to have two very good mentors along my studies and really to take us a bit above just research, but into the worth of acupuncture in the 21st century, in the words of Chinese medicine in this century, especially with Western medicine on one hand is very developing, but on the other hand, I think there is a great need to integrate with what we are doing in there’s a great need for what we can provide to patients. “By returning to the classical roots of Chinese medicine, we can make a truly significant contribution to the medicine of the future.”

And to me, combining the medicine that we are doing that comes from an ancient roots with the modern medicine and its ability also to look at in a kind of objective way, where we are effective or not effective. That’s why I’m carrying a lot of research. And I have my own lab and we look even on a cellular level and we look at different biomarkers. All this it’s strengthening what we are seeing in the clinic and all this is helping to create a better future medicine. So to me, whatever we are doing is key and important.

Thank you for joining the show and I will just wish you all the best of health, especially in these times. Be well and safe and healthy. Thank you very much for watching it. All the very best.

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Brian Lau and Matt Callison

Palpation in Assessment and Treatment

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Hello, I’m Brian Lau. Welcome. I’m here today with Matt Callison. We’re both with AcuSport Education. Also here today with Chad Bong. Many of you know Chad Bong. He’s one of the founding members of the Sports Acupuncture Alliance. There’s been three summits so far. Chad, you can let us know about the state of any upcoming ones. We’re in the midst of COVID-19 pandemic, so I believe that’s on hold. But we’ll have a chance to chat about that.

Chad’s also the host of PinPoint Performance Podcast. Just had a recent edition out with Jamie Chavez. I was interviewed for that. That’ll be coming out in a little bit. I think Matt’s been a past guest of that also. Whitfield Reaves, a bunch of other really great educators have been a guests of that podcast. Chad, do you want to say anything about the upcoming summits or possibilities of that?

I don’t know. We’re a little nervous about trying to get a hundred people in a room in our current state.

Yeah, sure.

So I don’t know. We have a lot of decisions to make with that. So as things start to get clear, maybe as a vaccine comes out, then we’ll be able to set it down the line. But it’s a big project. I was very thankful we didn’t have one set for this spring because-

Yeah, timing is not good for your live.

… I couldn’t have imagined having canceled something like that. So I’m glad that that worked out in our favor, but I’m a little nervous about setting one up right now. So we’ll see what the future holds there. But we’ll definitely keep with the podcast. We have a fair amount of them recorded-

Great.

… so we’ll be able to be turning some of them out every two weeks.

Awesome.

Yeah. So, Chad, just a little bit of background. Chad, you have a Master’s in Exercise Science.

Correct.

Also a massage therapist, studied massage therapy. A graduate of Southwest Acupuncture College. You’ve taught at a number of schools, Southwest, you’re currently at the WON Institute, and you’ve taught at Tri-State College of Acupuncture.

Yes.

Then in addition to that, of course you teach a lot of continuing education classes. So many folks who are listening might have attended some of those-

Possibly.

… or highly recommended to attend at some point in the future when we’re back doing live stuff.

Yeah, I definitely prefer the live stuff because I like the hands-on stuff, like what we’re talking about today, the palpation stuff. I don’t know how you teach that over the internet. Although I have to teach that over the internet because The WON is on 100% online classes right now.

Yeah, sure.

In the next couple of weeks here, I have to start teaching, three, four-hour classes on palpation.

Yeah. We’re going to be doing some online stuff with palpation, too.

It’s going to be tough.

It’s tough, but it challenges you in a different way. It brings out some sides that puts the spotlight on and makes you observe a little bit more. I mean it’s good to be positive about it. But I agree. Ideally, there’s no substitution for palpation live.

Yeah. I can’t put my hand on their hand and help them feel what they’re trying to feel. Once you teach this stuff for long enough, you can place your hand on top of somebody else’s finger and feel what they’re feeling through their fingers.

Sure.

So you can be like, “Not that thing right there, that thing right there.” You just can’t do that over the internet. So at least I haven’t figured that out yet.

Hey, Brian. I was looking at our list for the introduction for Chad, and it looks like there’s one line here. So Chad’s also a licensed acupuncturist and he’s completed Whit Reaves’ apprenticeship program. You also co-authored a book with Whit, right?

I helped with his book.

Yeah. So maybe that’s a good segue to go into your article from coracobrachialis that you just spoke about with Lhasa. I think it was last week or two weeks ago. Do you want to segue right into that, Chad?

Sure, we can move into that. So I did a coracobrachialis. We’re trying to put out some information for people during the COVID thing here. So I tried to pick something that I think just gets missed sometimes, I think, that other acupuncturists send me patients for that, for whatever reason, they haven’t figured out or haven’t gotten.

So that’s where we got into the coracobrachialis. It’s an interesting one as far as the palpation stuff because it’s an important muscle to be able to palpate not only the tissue of the muscle, because it’s not super easy to palpate the coracobrachialis versus the short head of the biceps without some practice. Then you also have to really know where that whole neurovascular bundle is that’s sitting right underneath it.

So when you do go in there, the needle, you’re not whacking away on that. Although I know some acupuncturists who purposely hit things like that, but I’m not one of them.

So I think it’s important to really be able to feel the difference between tissues. A pulse would be a real easy one to feel there. Then feel the septum in between the short head of the biceps and the coracobrachialis.

Then we’ll find bony landmarks, the coracoid process, and having some way to think through that, and then be able to see where the muscle ends and where the muscle begins and being able to continue that line down so you can feel the tissue all the way I think is important. So I think that’s pretty good into this whole idea of palpation.

Yeah. The discussion of that, what you were pointing out, is something that I note quite a bit working with acupuncturists, and I think this makes sense. We learn points and we learn an anatomy of points, whether that’s specific muscular anatomy or just bone landmarks and palpation and feel for indentation.

So I think acupuncture is often, understandably so, thinking points and they lose sometimes sight of that real estate of the muscle attaches from here and travels through this region of the arm or whatever structure you’re palpating, and thinking of it as a space and a region and relationship from this muscle to another muscle where the neurovascular bundle is all of those things together. It’s easy to lose sight of when you’re used to feeling for individual points. So I know what-

I agree. If I think back to acupuncture school, it was just like you learn all of this stuff, but it’s just this one point and this is another point and another point. It’s not all of the tissue in between and what all that tissue feels like and the depths of the tissue and the three-dimensionality of the body, being able to think about the body in more than just the surface area. You can get to the same spot inside the body from different angles, different points.

Yeah, sure.

Going back to the coracobrachialis, wouldn’t you guys agree that sometimes coracobrachialis strains seems like it’s a bicipital tenosynovitis. It’s easy to go to a bicipital tenosynovitis when, in reality, it’s actually a coracobrachialis strain.

So that’s where palpation comes in. It’s so important to understand what you’re feeling. Is it really the bicipital tendon and you cross-fiber that? If that doesn’t really cause the pain, then go deeper into the coracobrachialis, especially after some resistance, so you can feel it pop up. So palpation is everything in assessment. It’s what builds a treatment protocol, right?

I find it very important. I bring in the whole massage therapy world to it. Although my concept on palpation and feeling and tissue has evolved quite a bit from what I would have just called myself a massage therapist versus after going through acupuncture school and spending all of that time working with Whit and just getting much more specific and precise with what I’m doing palpation-wise. Whereas in the beginning of massage school, it’s just sliding strokes.

Yeah, sure.

You don’t get quite so precise. But, over time, I think if you keep practicing, you get super precise.

Yeah, yeah. Whit’s very big into palpation, thank goodness, because palpation is a missing link in our training in school, that’s for sure. So with palpation, I mean, isn’t it a lifetime skill also? I mean we should continue to learn all the time, especially the more that you actually consciously know about anatomy. The more that you can actually see anatomy and know what the underlying structures are, then you can start to actually see it in their palpation. So it seems to me that it’s just a lifetime skill development.

Yeah. I think like most things, the deeper you go into it, the bigger the hole is. So you can just keep learning more and more. I sat down and wrote some notes about things that I wanted to talk about during this thing, and building your anatomy base to understand where all of those tissues are. Then, on top of that, building the palpation base.

Both of those are endless processes, things that you could go on learning for the rest of your life, the details of anatomy. I think my anatomy is pretty good, but I know there’s people out there who know their anatomy better. I think I could spend a lot more time with cadavers and ultrasound and things like that and try to develop my feel and the view of this tissue even better. So I think there’s always room for learning.

Sure.

Then palpation, I have students in the beginning, when I first started with them, do the thing where you put a one-inch piece of thread underneath sheets of paper and then they palpate it. People, when they begin, maybe can feel that under 15, 20, maybe a really good person might get 40 in the beginning. But if you keep practicing, you can get up near a hundred sheets of paper with that little piece of thread under there and you’ll be able to find it.

So just developing that sense so that when you feel something different in the tissue, you can start to feel the actual differences in texture, which is really what I’m looking for is changes in texture in the tissue that I’m trying to feel to be able to tell that there’s something different going on in that specific spot.

Wouldn’t you say that then you could also quantify to excess, deficient, damp, hot, cold, which would then set up your needle technique and also your application of acupuncture and moxibustion, right? So if it feels real excess, we’re going to be feeling it with palpation and then needling it as a reducing method. So palpation is … It’s so incredibly deep. Hey, Chad. I think you and I have been bogarting this, and we haven’t been letting Brian speak.

Oh, no, I’m good. [crosstalk 00:11:37].

You’ve just to jump in, Brian.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

It’s a first come first serve show here.

Yeah. I do want to segue a little off of Chad giving tips because I had a few thoughts for this podcast of giving maybe some tips. We don’t have a ton of time to go into that, but we can talk about some guidelines or tips since that is an area within the acupuncture profession that could be improved on. You already gave a tip basically, was increasing sensitivity by having some method that you can start to add sheets of paper and feel through those sheets of paper to where you have greater and greater depth that you’re feeling through.

Yeah. If you want to talk about how, I think somebody could get better and better at palpation. First, I think you have to have a basis in anatomy, right?

Yeah, sure.

I think we all have. We’ve all been thinking about anatomy a lot. I think you need to learn that base so you can understand what tissues you’re trying to feel. Then I think you should build on that with learn what all the functions are, learn where the major neurovascular bundles are going through things, and maybe learn the functions of those muscles by practicing your manual muscle test, so that you can see what those muscles are actually doing.

Then you’re building multiple brain connections where you’re not just trying to memorize, “Oh, the biceps does elbow flexion,” you’re actually doing the elbow flexion or you’re having somebody else do the elbow flexion while you resist them.

So I think building your anatomy base, and thinking of it from small to big. Don’t just like, “I’ve got to learn all of the anatomy.”

Yeah, sure.

Just put pieces on top of pieces, layer it. But then once you have the … And I think you should do some range of motion stuff in there so you can see how people move. Then start feeling things. Really, the more different types of bodies, the more different tissue you feel, the better idea you’re going to have on what this tissue should feel like and what is different about the tissue?

Watch the students going through the three semesters of palpation stuff with me, and in the beginning, they can tell their auto-muscle and that’s about it. By the end, they’re like, “Is it that thing or is it that thing?” which is cool to watch the progression with them. Is that what you’re looking for?

Yeah. Well, I mean I have one. We were mentioning the coracobrachialis when you mentioned that doing a contraction to bring that muscle up. A tip that I often teach when I’m talking with students about a little bit more certainty for what they’re palpating is, yes, you can get the muscle to come up by a certain action, but you can be a little bit more precise on what action you use.

Coracobrachialis is a great example because it does really two major actions, but one of them, shoulder flexion. Well, it’s also right next to the bicep. So if you put your finger and span down and get on what you think is the coracobrachialis and have the person do shoulder flexion, it’s not going to tell you a whole lot because it’s going to contract, the biceps are going to contract. And what am I feeling? I don’t know. But if you recall that it also does adduction, [adeduction 00:00:14:46], adeduction is a much better-

Horizontal.

Horizontal adeduction. But also just straight adduction. That’s going to-

It tends to position your arms in, I guess, but-

Yeah, but that’s going to bring it up a little bit more different. It’s going to differentiate it a little bit more from the biceps just based on the action that it’s doing.

Yeah, a mechanism of injury, like, for example, you see usually this injury with people doing too many pushups or bench press or something like that. What else refers to the anterior shoulder, though? Doesn’t the lower motorpoint, which is also the same location of a trigger point of infraspinatus? [crosstalk 00:15:19].

It definitely refers to the front of the shoulder. The story I told at the beginning of the coracobrachialis thing, that’s what I thought it was. I pushed on her infraspinatus, I felt around back there, and I found a spot that just referred right to the front of her shoulder. So I was like, “Well, there we go. This is our thing.” She was a backstroke swimmer. So I was like I’ll treat her. Infraspinatus is the main concept muscle-wise, and this’ll get better pretty quickly, and it didn’t.

Don’t you hate that?

It doesn’t happen that often, but, well, it does.

Did they get somewhat better?

I learned something, though, right? I learned something by having her not get better. She didn’t get better basically.

At all. At all. Okay.

A couple of times actually. So I did some work on the infraspinatus and I did some work on the biceps and the deltoid, and I just wasn’t getting anywhere. Then, finally, I was like, well, I’m going to try the coracobrachialis. Once I needled the coracobrachialis, the next time she was 90% better when she came in. Then she was back to swimming. She’d missed swimming for years, basically, as far as competitive swimming.

How do you needle the coracobrachialis? We teach it as needling the motor innervation [ju pi 00:00:16:36], which is one tsun below [jan ayling 00:16:39]. How do you needle it?

So I’ll come pretty close to there. I’ll find it off of the coracoid process and then palpate out, making sure I’m on the right line by … People can see me, right?

Mm-hmm (affirmative).

Making sure I’m on the right line by coming and finding it in here, and then palpating all the way up here and then needling going out and down. But not super deep. You just want to get through whatever you happen to be under there, either the anterior delt or a little bit of the pec major. But, again, all of that neurovascular bundle there is sitting behind the coracobrachialis there. So you’ve got to be a little bit careful.

So I’ll needle it there, but you can also get into it inside the arm here, which is what I talked about when I did the coracobrachialis presentation. But here you really have to know your palpation, right?

Yeah, sure.

You have to be able to separate … I don’t know if you can see my screen right now, but if you do a light flex, you can see that septum in there. If you flex it a ton, it’ll just go away and it’ll just feel like the bicep.

But you can get this little space right here, but then you have to know right behind it. In this position, inferior to it is that whole neurovascular bundle. You can feel the brachial artery right there. So you’ve got to make sure you don’t hit that thing.

But this would be by palpation in here to see if I can find a spot that’s really interesting. Then I’d usually get two needles into it. You don’t have to needle deep. That muscle is basically right at the surface, so you don’t have to go crazy, again because you want to be careful of all the neuro stuff back there.

Then I would just get two needles into that tissue, some light e-stims just until either the patient feels it or you see a little tiny bit of a twitch. Then if you have needles in up here and needles here, you might see these needles moving and these needles moving, if you have a light twitch going on.

Brian, how do you like to palpate it?

Well, I use the motorpoint ju pi quite a bit. But like Chad mentioned, I sometimes do look for trigger points, or ashi points, a little bit more inferior. I don’t discuss that as much with people just because it takes a lot of set up in terms of students. It takes a lot of set up, and there is a little bit more risk. You have to be a little more mindful of the palpation.

But, yeah, I do sometimes needle it in that more inferior aspect. I do find that that’s a pretty common area of congestion. I also do a lot of manual work in that area. I probably more frequently do manual work at that part of the muscle than I do needling it and separating the coracobrachialis.

This is where it comes really having the palpation skills there because you can separate it from the septum. It can create a lot of congestion in that septum between the biceps and the triceps and being able to open that septum up.

Something else that we do when we teach … Chad, you probably know that we use a lot of models with sinew channels. The coracobrachialis is on the pericardium sinew channel, palpating it and then going and needling either a point like [piece X 00:19:44] or something. But in that case, I’d probably go with another muscle on the pericardium sinew channel like the pronator teres, maybe pronator quadratus, and see, when you go back and return to palpation, if that diminishes. Usually it’ll be about by 50% that you can diminish some of the sensitivity to palpation from a distal point. It doesn’t mean you won’t needle it locally, but-

So I’m glad you brought that up because David Legge, in his book, he basically puts it on the lung channel.

Yeah, that’s great.

And I was like I don’t necessarily agree with that. So I’m glad I got somebody else on my corner here [crosstalk 00:20:20] pericardium.

Yes.

It’s all opinion, of course, right?

Yeah, I mean you’re trying to decipher some pretty ancient language that’s been translated.

It’s in a different myofascial bag than the lungs, the lung channels. Yeah, it’s different.

Yeah, I agree.

Yeah, we have the biceps on the lung channel and then how that relates down the arm, the pericardium on the … I mean coracobrachialis on the pericardium channel. I think we have a video where we do on a cadaver specimen, where we have a needle in the … I don’t think this is up on our YouTube channel, but the needle in the coracobrachialis motorpoint and pronator teres motorpoint.

I forget now which one we turned and wrapped, but more aggressive than you do on a person. This isn’t a technique demonstration, but turning the needle to where it really, really grabbed a hold of the tissue. Obviously it’s a cadaver specimen, so there’s no sensation.

But you really want to get the needle stuck and then pull and see if it transmits force. I think it was from coracobrachialis down to pronator teres. You pull on coracobrachialis and you’ll see that [crosstalk 00:21:26].

You saw them both move.

Yeah.

That’s pretty cool.

Yeah.

Now we needled it the way that we needle it in SMAC, which is supposed to meet at the bicipital tendon, going in at an angle distal into that area, into the innervation site, which is common area for strain in that region. It seems like going from what Chad was showing, going from the medial intermuscular septum, in between the bicipital septum, going that way. It seems like we’re just going to the same spot, but at two different angles.

Like I said, it’s a 3D thing. We’re working from three dimensions. So you wanted tips. I think a great tip is for people who … The first time you’re trying to work on a muscle or find a muscle is to break open the Motorpoint Index book and be like, okay, ju pi is right here. So I know that I’m all on that muscle if I go to this point, or at least I’m really close to it depending on some other person’s anatomy. But I’m right on this muscle. So you could find that spot.

Even if you’re not a motorpoint needling person, or if you are, but at least it gets you on the muscle so you can start in a spot that’s in a good spot, and then you can palpate from there. It’d be a good way to find, say, like a popliteal muscle or coracobrachialis or something like that. Just use the Motorpoint Index wording and description of the location to find the actual point on the muscle, I think, is a great way to go about it.

Well, gosh, since we’re talking about that, you might as well go ahead and get the Sports Medicine Acupuncture Textbook because the images have not just individual, but it’s grouped together. So you can see the motorpoints all together. Thanks for that, Chad. That was a nice segue, buddy.

No problem. Anytime.

Yeah, and I think it’s important to see it in relationships too, because it’s good when you’re learning anatomy to see that isolated muscle on a skeletal structure and get a clear picture of where it attaches to and where it lives, but then to be able to see it in relationship to the other structures … Because that’s going to be more like when you’re actually going to palpate because you have to differentiate between blood vessels and other muscles and just the whole picture.

Yeah. I think it just helps people who don’t have quite the palpation background to find a certain spot, but then we also know like, okay, that’s a relatively safe spot to put a needle essentially, is into where the motorpoint is marked out. So you have both a point that’s relatively safe to put a needle in and it gets you on the muscle. So I think it’s a good way to learn where each of these muscles are and where there’s points you could access them as you go about learning this stuff.

Now I want to bring one thing up, is that, remember, our founding fathers really didn’t know the anatomy so well. There is some literature that does show they had … They were doing dissections, for sure. But the anatomy knowledge is not like how it is today.

So not knowing the underlying anatomy then gives the practitioner so much of a feel of what’s happening in the skin over the muscle itself. How well can you move the skin of an acupuncture point or a motorpoint or a lesion or something? How well does that skin move over that muscle or adhere to it because of the skin ligaments and the subcutaneous tissue onto the fascia profunda?

So there’s so many different things that can be developed just by not knowing the anatomy, but by going by what’s happening within the skin. I think that’s how we started, right?

Sure.

Then with dissection then came more anatomy and such, because we’re feeling for excess and deficiency, and I already talked about all of that. But I think that was really quite traditionally was how it began.

I’m sure it was just, again, layers on top of layers of learning over a long time for our [inaudible 00:25:23].

Matt, I just saw a question come in about the name of the book you mentioned.

Oh, great. Awesome. Thank you. It’s called Sports Medicine Acupuncture. If you go to SMAtextbook.com, SMAtextbook.com, there’s information about it. Thank you very much for that.

Yeah, and I guess we can mention Whitfield Reaves’ book. Chad, you had some interaction with that book also, if you wanted to mention that, because another great resource for acupuncturists who are transitioning into a more orthopedic or sports model.

Yeah, the Acupuncture Handbook of Sports Injuries and Pain. Yeah, it’s a great concise book about 25 really common injuries that people … If you’re going to work in sports injuries kind of world, those are the injuries, the 25 of the most common injuries, you’re going to see. So it lays out a really simple way of going about treating those injuries. I’m not a very good [crosstalk 00:26:29].

Yeah, more and more resources are out there now for sports and orthopedic-based acupuncture, which is great. I think there’s more on the horizon, too. So it seems like it’s a really growing field right now.

Yeah, the amount of people who are into this and posting things that they’re trying has grown exponentially since we started.

Hey, guys, there’s only about four minutes left. Is there anything that you want to wrap up with or any other questions that we can be able to take?

I think-

I can give one quick … We’re on some tips. This is an easy tip and it won’t take long. But when we’re palpating muscles, also being able to effectively palpate bone is quite important. What I frequently see when I’m teaching palpation is people tend to go in very quick and jab you when they’re palpating for bone. Just a general tip is when you’re doing it to use a flatter surface.

If you’re using your fingertips and you’re trying to palpate the coracoid process, you can’t really tell if you’re on the head of the humerus, if you’re on the coracoid process. You’re on maybe attachments that can feel hard if you go in too quick.

Whereas if you come in and match the shape of the bone, it has like a little hook. So if you can get your finger around that little hook and get more surface on the bone, and also wait a little bit of time and let that density of the bone … As the tissue softens around your hand, that density of the bone really comes to your hand more. It’s a really good strategy for palpating bone.

Then once you’re on that, you can do a little back and forth movement to get a little more clarity to it. But bone palpation, I find for a lot of people who are not really taught outpatient well, they’re too quick, too quick on the point of their finger. So just imagine how much information … You can’t really bring in as much information on a point as you can on a flatter surface.

Yes, I would-

[crosstalk 00:28:26]. Go ahead, Chad.

I would carry that into muscle as well.

Sure.

I mean, if you go in there really quick, the people are just going to tense up. They’re going to have constant pain, especially if you’re working on bigger muscles, if you use a bigger surface, like I’ll use a fist or an arm or something like that. Then I’ll just find something I’m interested in and just keep working into a smaller thing so then I eventually get down to my finger or something.

But you can feel a lot of very interesting things that you might miss with just a finger with a wider surface on, say, a bigger muscle. So don’t forget to do that. And work your way in. So you can put a lot of pressure on a human being if you work your way in there slow. If you go in fast, they’re just going to jump off your table.

Yes, I agree. Something that I’ve said for a long, long time is if you use a number of different anchors, following up with what you just said, Chad, but specifically your pericardium nine, because, in my mind, what works for me is that allows intuition to come up. It seems like I get a lot of messages when I feel with my pericardium nine finger. Maybe that’s just [Mattism 00:29:29], but I believe that’s actually fairly true for a lot of people.

Yeah. I have people practice with all their fingers, like figure out what finger works for you.

It works better than the elbow, that’s for sure.

I don’t know, man. You can train an elbow pretty well.

Yeah, I agree.

That’s true.

I agree.

That’s true.

I agree.

My elbow sensation 20 years ago was nothing. I could tell I was on a human body. But, no, man, I can feel a ton of stuff. It’s just because I’ve used them a lot to find things. That doesn’t mean I’m using them to cause an immense amount of pressure on somebody. But on big areas, a forearm shaft, a shaft of your ulna, you can find a lot of stuff with it.

Yeah.

Hey, I know we don’t have a ton of time, but there are a couple of reoccurring questions refining palpation, and two that I’ve seen come up quite a bit is palpation on people who are obese, because it can create a little bit more challenge. I mean I’ve worked with plenty of obese people that had just great muscle tone, very easy to palpate, and some very thin people who had very … Very difficult to palpate. But, generally, generally, it’s much more difficult to palpate people who have extra weight. Any tips or thoughts on that?

Matt?

Sure. Move it to the side as much as you can, knead it as much as you can, and also put the patient into a position to allow gravity to move the subcutaneous fat out of the way. For example, if you want to go to the lateral side of the body or into the obliques or something like that, instead of having them being supine, have them roll to the side so you can have that tissue with gravity move out of the way. Different tips like that is fine, but it takes a while. It will start to melt, but it takes time to do that.

Yeah. I think there’s different levels of connective tissue inside adipose tissue, too. So I think there’s a difference in how some of these things are going to feel. Some of it’s pretty easy to move through, some of it’s more difficult to move through.

Retinacular cutis.

Yeah.

Again, it’s practice. That’s why I say you need to try on a lot of bodies. You can’t just practice on one person because, yeah, you’ll get good at palpating that person, but you need to practice on all shapes and sizes of people to really get good at this skill.

Yeah. Having done a lot of dissection, you get to see, with people who are obese, how much subcutaneous fat there is, but also how much internal visceral fat there can be. Even when you’re seeing what you’re doing, sometimes differentiating structures on a cadaver specimen can be very difficult with people who are obese.

These are all great tips, but at some level you just have to do your best and understand that it’s inherently more challenging. That’s why sometimes people who are more obese, sometimes they don’t do certain surgical procedures because it’s … I mean this is when you’re in there seeing things. It’s hard to differentiate.

Now imagine you can’t see anything and you’re going in with your hand trying to differentiate the structures. It’s harder. You just have to understand that it’s harder. But [crosstalk 00:32:38].

But it can be [inaudible 00:32:38] a lot of stuff.

Sure. But you have to also understand that, at some capacity, with some people that you just have to do your best and feel your best and trust that you’re on the right structure. If you are in a risky area, maybe choose not to do those certain points that you can’t safely differentiate where you’re at and needle safely.

Definitely.

Yeah. Now the palpation is followed by needling. Then the needling density also helps, wouldn’t you say?

Yeah.

So then if you’re palpating … Are we still on the obese, I guess?

Yeah.

I mean this is a whole another podcast or webinar.

Sure.

Yeah, it is. [crosstalk 00:33:17].

You’re talking about density of tissue when you’re dealing with a needle. That’s a whole … Like we could talk about another half an hour, probably an hour, about just how a tissue feels and how you need to learn that when you’re practicing your needle. What does it feel like to go through fat? What does it feel like to go through fascia? What does it feel like to go through muscle, both healthy muscle and not healthy muscle? You talked about like you could diagnose somebody off of palpation with excess, deficient, whatever. You could do the same thing with a needle.

Absolutely. Absolutely. That would be fun to do. That’d be a fun discussion to have.

Yeah.

I’m ready.

Well-

You guys, it’s 10:33. So another question or … Yeah.

It doesn’t matter to me.

We’ll also be looking at questions on Facebook and can answer those via written responses. But I think we’re probably about ready to wrap up.

All right. Some closing comments. Chad, I just want to say thank you very much for doing this with us. That was really, really fun. It’s always great to get your insight on this. Also, so, Brian, it’s great always being with you as well.

Yeah, of course.

Let’s make sure that next week that you stay tuned to this because you’ve got Yair Maimon that’s coming in. If you have not had an opportunity to be able to listen to him, he is a brilliant speaker, a real bright light. He’s an excellent person to tune in with. He’s got all kinds of different insights with acupuncture and traditional Chinese medicine. So I hope you enjoy that. Brian, anything else that we need to say, thanking American Acupuncture Council?

Yeah, thanks to American Acupuncture Council, of course. We’ll be back then in a few weeks down the road for some more discussion of orthopedic and sports acupuncture.

Yeah, this is a topic that Brian and I hit on the podcast that we did. So if you’re interested in this, stay tuned for when we release Brian’s podcast, because Brian gets into his thought process on this a little bit more in the podcast.

Awesome.

I agree.

That’s great. When is that podcast, Chad?

I don’t know.

Okay.

We have a pretty big queue of podcasts right now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. The one with Jamie Chavez, there was a little discussion on palpation, too. It wasn’t the centerpiece of the whole thing. It covered a lot of topics, but there’s a little bit in that also.

Josh, our goal is we get into it a little bit more, because he’s more of a bodyworker. You, we got into it quite a bit because you’re more of a bodyworker, too. So those are probably the two biggest ones we talked about palpation stuff.

Got you, okay.

Josh is … I don’t know when we’re going to release that either, but it’s coming to PinPoint.

Okay. Yeah, I was about to say I hadn’t heard his yet, but that’s why.

Yeah.

All right.

Thanks, guys.

All right, thanks very much, and we’ll see you next time.

See you.

Okay, bye bye.

Bye bye.

We done, Brian?

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Hi, everyone my name’s Michelle Gellis. I am an acupuncture physician and I teach facial acupuncture classes internationally. I would like to thank the American Acupuncture Council for giving me this opportunity to present a webinar to all of you, on how we can best support our patients, our cosmetic patients, our neuromuscular facial patients now through telemedicine and also once we start opening up, how we can continue to support our patients safely in our treatment rooms if we’re doing any points on their face. So this is one example of how we can actually work on someone’s face. This was me teaching a class… A portion of the class was watching me do some face lifting techniques that are unique to what I teach, and I’m going to talk about that in a moment.

I found this cartoon which I thought was very fitting and it’s supposed to be someone doing long distance acupuncture, and I thought during this time it would be funny… not funny, but many of us have found ourselves trying to kind of scramble figure out how are we going to support our patients if we are in a place where we can’t treat them, and especially if you specialize in cosmetic acupuncture or you have any patients who are new or current patients who have any sort of neuromuscular facial condition, how can you help them? This is a slide from one of my classes and what it is, is a quote from Coco Chanel and she’s saying that from birth until age 25 you have the face that your mother gave you. From 25 to 50 you have your own face that you create, and then from 50 on you have the face that you deserve. I put this slide into this presentation because so many of us are missing that care that we’re used to getting from outside, whether it’s for our bodies, for our faces, for our skin, for our hair, many of us and our patients are used to going outside for these services. I’m in Maryland in the USA and here everything is completely shut down and has been, we’re on week eight now of complete shutdown.

So there are ways that we can support our patients during this time. Telemedicine is actually a wonderful way that you can support your patients, not just with needles like you normally would but there are methods that you can use to help them physically, emotionally… And I’m going to go through a few of those possibilities with you. One of the most important things to think about when you’re thinking about treating the face is how the face is connected to the rest of the body, and when you’re treating the outside you’re treating the inside. So by treating a person’s face you’re treating all of them, and the same goes for if you’re doing body points it also helps to treat their outside.

In my classes I teach a full body protocol for facial acupuncture. It’s not just working on the face which will help if you’re doing cosmetic acupuncture, you can kind of get around… work around some of the things that maybe you’re used to doing by providing some of that full body work. Additionally, now is a great time to do a telemedicine intake for your new patients. Assuming that some of us will be opening up, it’s coming up in the next few weeks coming into summer, really getting prepared so that when you do see your new patients you can limit or reduce the amount of time that you have to spend doing the face to face intake, I’m going to talk about that as well. How can you support your existing facial patients, whether or not they have a neuro condition like bell’s palsy, trigeminal neuralgia, stroke, Ms ptosis. Any condition that affects them here there are things that you can do now to get… to set the stage for when they do come in. Chinese medicine is uniquely suited to help our patients body, mind, spirit and so we really are at quite an advantage over some other modalities.

As I said I’m also going to talk a little bit about what we can do when we do open. So I touched upon that a lot of our patients who are used to getting different services, whether it is their Botox or filler or their lasers or peels, or just a facial amongst other things they have not been able or they are still not able to have these services, but there are things that we can do to help them and any of you who are on social media, know the myriad of jokes that have been going around people and their inability to care for themselves saying they can’t wait. The first thing they’re going to do is get their hair done or their nails done.

So this kind of points to that. So telemedicine in general is great because it does give us an opportunity to work on some skills that maybe we would have never spent a lot of time developing for those patients who are afraid of needles, don’t like needles. It’s a nice, safe way for us to be able to practice our art. Our patients are not… for many of them not taking really good care of themselves right now. So you can speak to them during telemedicine about what’s going on with you as far as yourself care. Have you increased your alcohol consumption? Have you been following your regular hygiene routine? Are you getting enough sleep? How is your stress level? And all of these are very much a part of what your regular telemedicine sessions can be. I’m a Worsley trained five element acupuncturist. So a big part of my background and my training when I’m working with my patients, whether they’re my cosmetic patients or my pain patients is too check in with them about all of their systems to see how they’re going, and certainly you can do that through telehealth.

The reason why I… part of the reason why I was able to really make the jump from in-person to a telemedicine for cosmetic purposes is that the… so the skin on our face is the only place on our body where our muscle is attached to skin. So you can move the skin on your face and what this means to us as practitioners when we’re doing a session like this, we can look at our patients faces and we can see the different signs of their emotions. We can diagnose them constitutionally… and I’m going to break this down in a moment, but all of these emotions will get launched in the face. Since telemedicine is done through a camera, you have a unique opportunity really to look at your patient’s face and diagnose them that way. People are dealing with a lot of emotional issues, loneliness, isolation, fear, grief, people. Parents are having to homeschool their kids.

There’s a lot of over nurturing that’s going on for people that are in families, a lot of togetherness and in some cases there’s a lot of anger and frustration. So all of this is going to show up right here and this is all going to help you with your diagnosis. Also, really talking to them about what’s going on and giving them some self care skills, self-nurturing skills some of which you already know and some of which you might need to be a little creative as far as how can you take your skills whatever they are meditation or [qigong 00:12:44] and deliver those things to your patients. As far as offerings, speak to your patients about their nutritional habits, lifestyle support, are they getting enough exercise? What are the eating? What are they drinking? And as far as actually caring for their skin, you can teach your patients acupressure.

So for your current and your new facial patients, it can be acupressure on facial points and it can also be some body points that affect the face. So anything that you might be needling you can teach them some acupressure, and what I’ve done is I’ve just taken charts and highlighted or circled things, either taken a picture, scanned it and sent it to them. And then the next time I meet with them I’ll do a little training session with them, I’ll ask them how it’s going. I check in from week to week and it really keeps you engaged with your patients, and it makes them know that you care. So facial cupping, if you’ve never done facial cupping before I have a website where all of my live lectures are recorded, they’re all CEU recorded webinars and I teach facial cupping.

I also have a live stream class coming up, I was supposed to be teaching it in London. It is the first weekend in June and all that information is on my website, it’s facialacupunctureclasses.com and part of that class is a facial cupping. So this is what a facial cup looks like and it’s relatively easy to teach your patients how to do facial cupping and also facial Gua sha. The Gua sha tools I like look like this, and I’m going to talk a little bit more about those in a second. Also, micro needling is something that you can train them to do at home with a Derma roller as well. Any of my live stream classes are also recorded as well, I did want to mention.

I put this picture of myself… This is me teaching. I do make a lot of jokes when I teach our time is limited here so I’m going to keep the jokes and stories to an absolute minimum, but I put this picture up because you can see the lines on my face and those are very typical or someone who smiles and laughs a lot. When I’m teaching I go through all the different lines and what they mean and where they come from but I’m going to give you guys just a quick overview right now, and things that you can talk about with your patients or just use them as your own diagnostic tools. So on the left here is more of a picture of the different areas of the face and the organs that they correspond to, and this picture on the right is from Lillian Bridge’s book Face Reading, and I actually don’t… I personally don’t teach either one of these, I have a recording of one of my friends who is licensed to teach her class.

I have a section of that, that I include on Chinese face reading but there are a lot of different types of lines on the face that you can use when you’re diagnosing. There are a five element tools if you know five element acupuncture or if you’re interested, I go over a lot of this as well but looking at your patient’s facial color, the sound of their voice and the overlying emotion these are things that you can actually do with your patient through telemedicine. If the camera or their lighting isn’t good, they can take a picture of themselves with their cell phone and send it to you, and you can get a better idea of their color. You can also do tongue diagnosis and this can give you more information, same thing have them take a photo and compare it. Although you cannot feel their pulse, you can certainly get an idea of the pulse rate.

So if they’re wearing one of those Apple watches or whatever, whether it’s their pulse is slow or fast and if they don’t have a device, one of those Fitbits then you could just ask them to feel their pulse and count it for you. There are a lot of physical signs of aging that you can use through telemedicine to help diagnose what’s going on with your patient. If I have time I’ll get back to all of these, but I just wanted to put some of these up. These are slides from… I think they’re in their first module of my recorded webinar about diagnosis, and some liver and gallbladder lines. Some signs of kidney out of balance, [spleen 00:19:27] deficiency and then all the different facial lines and signs of aging and what they mean. These are things that you can look for when you are diagnosing your patient through telemedicine.

So, that’s a lot about diagnosis now What about treatment? What can you actually do for your patient? Well, by treating their spirit you’re going to treat their face, right? If someone is stressed it’s going to show up on their face. If someone is angry it’s going to show up on their face. If someone is fearful… if they’re grieving all of this is going to show up right here. So using ear seeds and teaching your patient… I have one of these little ears that I use and I’ll show my patient where to put the ears seeds, and then I’ll give them a diagram of the ear and I’ll put little dots. You can… here’s a great point for relaxation and then there were actually points right on the ear lobe that treat different areas of the face, the endocrine system to help with their complexion can help to balance their hormones. I’ve had patients call me their hair’s falling out, their face is breaking out. So the ear seeds can be great and they can even put them on acupuncture points. If they’re home they’re not going out which a lot of us aren’t, they could just put the seeds right on points. As far as the cupping and Gua sha, you can either take one of my webinars, you could… as long as you credit me you could use some of the pictures from that.

You could draw a picture for your patient and just show them it’s relatively easy and just because your teaching them doesn’t mean they’re not going to come to you afterwards. Because they will enjoy having you do this to them much more than doing it to themselves, but just teaching them some simple facial cupping, some facial Gua sha, how to really use the Gua sha tools and learning how to prescreen your patients for whose a candidate is important.

So I do recommend that you get trained, you don’t just try to wing it. There are some pictures from some of my classes and some acupressure that your patients can do. If you have current cosmetic patients and they’re contacting you going, “I got to get in, I got to get in.” You can teach them some acupressure on different points on their face that they can use to help to stimulate some of these points, and these are some common points that I use in my classes, and also some distal points that would be part of a facial acupuncture protocol. I found this picture online, I liked it because it was color coded and it made it easy to share with my patients. Of course, herbs are something that you can recommend for acne, rosacea, different cheek deficiencies, blood deficiency, stagnation any of these things are going to show up on the face. Puffy eyes, redness.

Any sort of skin condition usually can be helped through herbs, and I am not an herbalist so I’m not going to go into a lecture. There are prescriptions and formulations that can help with different skin conditions. As far as micro needling you can get a microneedle device. I sell them through AcuLift skincare, my company the AcuLift Derma roller and Lhasa has them, but you can buy them sell them to your patients or ask your patients to get one. These are great when you are practicing for your patients to use them between treatments or during this time when they’re looking for a really low tech way to treat their skin. It’s roller with titanium needles and it doesn’t damage the skin at all, it’s very gentle and they could just roll it on their skin. It stimulates collagen and elastin, and it can really go a long way to keep their skin looking good. When they’re at home you could teach them how to use it and again these are safe.

They are approved by the American Acupuncture Council, the AcuLift brand is approved by AAC for use in the treatment room. It is the only brand that is approved by AAC, and they can be used if their hair is falling out, you can use it on your scalp to help to stimulate blood flow, reduce [inaudible 00:25:14] excess testosterone, balance the hormones in the scalp. They’re great for pitted scars, acne scars and a lot of other things and I teach microneedling as well.

I don’t want to spend a lot of time on all this. You can go to my website and look up all of this. I want to make sure I have time for once you open. So I have noticed that a lot of people are going back to work in the next couple of weeks. So one of the big questions is, what do you do once you reopen? If your patient is supposed to be wearing a mask, how are you going to treat their face? Well, there are a few options.

So first when you think about a mask, there’s really only a certain part of the face that a mask covers, right? So if your patient is wearing a mask, the areas that you’re going to have difficulty reaching will be anything around their lips or kind of the gel area. So doing points like stomach 8, [inaudible 00:26:42], gallbladder 2 which you can still reach, and distal points, large intestine four, stomach 36, stomach 40. These points will all help the lower [Hussey 00:27:01] points will help to access this area of the face. Also, using Dr. Tan, if you use Dr. Tans you can do body imaging and you can treat their body.

So even if they are wearing a mask of course you can still treat everything here, and you can do ear points, you can do scalp acupuncture and these can all work to treat all of this, and then using some of your other tools of some of these other points can help with the rest.

So some of the… one of the skills that I teach in my class is using… utilizing the auricular muscles and doing submuscular needling, and this also helps to lift the face. Even if your patient is wearing a mask, you can still access these as well as doing points along the gallbladder 18, which works on the galea aponeurotica up which connects the occipital and frontal bellies of the occipitofrontalis muscle. These are all things that really work to lift the face. What about if you’re trying to… if you are practicing five element, and you need to do some entry exit points on the face? Well, you can access all of them actually except LI20, and in that case you would go down to the next accessible point, which was large intestine 18 which is in line with stomach nine and right behind the SCM.

Lastly, some other alternatives if you feel comfortable having your… if you’ve check their temperature and you screen them thoroughly, and they are asymptomatic and you are wearing a mask and a face shield depending on what the regulations are in your state, you could have them remove their mask or move their mask and treat their face that way, and the last thing is I did find this face shield if you could see here on the right. It was designed for estheticians to be able to treat their clients. It’s a giant sneeze guard and when I first I saw it I thought it was a joke, but I just ordered one. So we’ll see how it goes but again it’s a possibility because if you have on a mask and a face shield, you’re safe but you also want to protect your treatment space. If your patient did cough or sneeze, that it wouldn’t be spread throughout the treatment space.

So again a lot of the stuff I talked about was for cosmetics, but definitely for your neuro patients utilizing body points… any points you can access and I also have a two part webinar on treating neurovascular facial conditions, and a big part of treating a lot of these conditions is scalp acupuncture and body points with some facial points incorporated in. So, that is the end of my lecture and I want to thank the American Acupuncture Council for giving me this opportunity to share everything that I shared. If you have any questions you can go to my Facebook group which is Facial Acupuncture, I’m also on Instagram Facial Acupuncture. I have a Facebook page, Facial Acupuncture classes and my website where you can also write to me is facialacupunctureclasses.com and next week we will… AAC will be hosting Matt Callison and Brian Lau. So, that should be a great lecture and I want to thank all of you for your time, and I’ll be more than happy to answer your questions as best as I can. Thank you so much.

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5 Actions You Can Implement NOW To Prepare To Reopen

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Hi, folks. Jeffrey Grossman here from Acupuncture Media Works and AcuPerfect Websites. I am thrilled to be here. Thank you American Acupuncture Council for inviting me on here to conduct a program on their To The Point live training series on Facebook. I’m really glad to be here. I’m really glad to be a participant and a presenter here. We’re going to be doing some future programs, and I’m going to be talking about creative solutions to grow your practice using simple, effective, and sleaze-free strategies. I know that marketing is something that is imperative to help you grow your practice, and I also know that as an acupuncturist, you might not be that thrilled to participate in the marketing world.

But yet as an entrepreneur and as a healer, that which you, everyone who’s watching this who’s an acupuncturist, you are both of that, you will need to participate in and embark on and embrace both hats of being the entrepreneur and the healer. My goal through this program that the AAC is putting on is to provide you with some tools moving forward to help you market your practice, attract patients, reactivate your inactive patients, and to essentially grow your practice in a way that makes you feel comfortable, that allows you to reach some of the goals that you want with growing your practice, and to achieve some of the financial goals you’re looking to obtain with helping more people in your community with this beautiful medicine.

Again, thank you American Acupuncture Council for having me here and inviting me on as a presenter. Today, I want to talk about five different actions that you can implement now to prepare your practice to reopen. I also want to talk about a couple of things that you can be doing now to pivot your practice, so when this crazy time happens again, hopefully it won’t, but my feeling is that we’ll be going through waves of what we’re experiencing now with this crazy pandemic. One of the things that I want to encourage you all to do is to consider about different ways that you can pivot your practice now so when things happen in the future, you’re already there. You’re already prepared.

You already know what to do and how to keep the patients flowing and some finances coming in based upon what you’ve doing now to prepare yourself for the future. One of the things that’s really important is that it’s important to market your practice now while the competition is low. Because a lot of people right now are pulling back their marketing dollars and all of their marketing outreach because they’re scared or they’re frightened or they want to save and conserve money. But I really feel that now is not the time to be conservative in your marketing efforts. In fact, I think you should be putting a lot more energy into that right now, and I’ll talk about a couple of things that you could be doing in order to make that happen.

One of the things I also feel is really important that you could be doing right now is to educate yourself now on what you’ve been wanting to learn in the past. Whether or not you want to educate yourself on website basics or email marketing basics or specific acupressure points or tapping techniques or things of that nature, those are some important things that you could be incorporating in your life right now during this time that we have to reset and refocus because we’re forced to stay in doors, to really tap into those things that you’ve been needing to do in your practice. Five actions that you can implement now to prepare your practice to reopen. One of the first things that I really encourage you guys to do would be to maintain your digital awareness in order to stay on top of mind awareness.

The biggest thing I want to encourage you to do right now, which many of you may have been putting off and many of you may have already been doing this already, is to evaluate your website. Now, why evaluate your website? Well, good question, because your website is the calling card that everyone is going to be looking at and tapping into whenever they hear about you. Any future referral or any future word of mouth or any type of marketing that you’re going to be doing in the future, everyone is going to be going to your website. It’s going to be important for you to take this time to use it as wisely as you can. One of the things that I suggest you do is to make whatever improvements need to happen to your website now. Here are a couple of things I want to encourage you to do.

Explore your homepage, okay? What happens when people visit your website? What is the first message that comes across to them about what you do and what you have to offer for them? Is it easy to navigate? Do you have a message that comes across to them when they hit your website? Do they know that you’re a specialist in sports medicine or a specialist in fertility or that you’re amazing in helping support immune health or that you’re really good for stress and anxiety relief? Many of you might not be specializing right now, but I encourage all of my students in my practice management class and all of the practitioners that I’m mentoring to figure out something that they can specialize in.

The reason is is because every acupuncturist is trained to be a general practitioner, which is great. We can help so many different conditions. This being a specialist means that you are able to focus your mind, your money and your communication processes and your messages on specific niches. That’s one thing I would really encourage you to do. Also, make sure that your blog posts are current and up to date. Maybe you could take some time to write a couple of blog posts now about immune health and about staying calm and about how to be productive, what points are good for immunity, what points are good for keeping you stress-free, and what points are really good for helping you stay motivated and productive. Okay?

Also, you want to check to make sure that your website has multiple calls to action. If you’ve seen any past webinars or trainings that I’ve done, you’ve heard me talk about calls to action. These are specific calls that are on your website that make people take action. Maybe you people visit your website and they might not schedule with you right away, but maybe they’ll give you their email address in exchange for a free eBook on immune health, or maybe they will click to download a low cost complementary evaluation or exam that you may be offering. On your website, you need to have multiple calls to action, little buttons that say, “Click here for this. Click here to schedule for this. Click here to download this.”

If your website doesn’t have that, I encourage you to take that into consideration. One of the first things I really want you to do is to audit your digital awareness and evaluate your website. If any of you are interested in getting a free website evaluation, feel free to put some comments in the box below the videos here and I will reach out to you. I’ll have some team members reach out to you to provide you with a free website evaluation because that’s something that we do that’s near and dear to our hearts. Okay? The next thing that I think is really important for you guys to do is to tap into some technologies now that you can learn how to use and learn how to work with your patients that you could use now and also into the future.

Because, like I said, I don’t think that this is a one and done kind of thing. I think this is the kind of thing that’s going to be coming back to us. Telehealth, that is the big buzzword these days. Doxy.me is one of the easiest platforms that you could be using in your practice. It’s really easy to set up. There’s no downloads that need to take place. Clients, they just click and they access your telehealth portal. Exploring technology is important. I think one of them would be making sure that you’re familiar with telehealth, and the other one is to do videos.

I think doing something like this where you could actually put on a camera or use your phone and sit there and educate about immune health or educate about tapping specific points for calming anxiety or stress or improving insomnia or helping to support the immune system. You have so many tools at which to educate and teach on. Don’t hold back, okay? Maybe you’re scared about getting in front of a camera or maybe you’re scared about what you should be saying. But the thing is, I feel like this whole crisis that’s been happening now, people are becoming less judgmental and you don’t need to be a model and look handsome and beautiful in order to be behind the camera.

Just showing up and being real and offering really solid content and making sure that you’re there to support your community, people will get that. They’ll really resonate that with you. I encourage you all to tap into the technology of using videos for your marketing prospects and to help grow your following. YouTube is the way to do that. There are so many different ways. You could turn on your iPhone and take a couple of videos. You could have other friends and family members or other practitioners even interview about a couple of things. One of the things I would encourage you all to do is to jot down some of the points that you know that are really great for supporting immune health, right?

You could name a few off the top of your heads, and put together a short little video. It could go something like this. Hi, my name is Jeffrey Grossman, and I want to share with you about how acupuncture and acupressure can help support your immune health in these crazy times. I’m really committed to helping people in our community to stay well and to stay healthy. Many of you might not be aware of the fact that acupuncture is really great for supporting immune health. What I want to do is I want to walk you through three acupressure points and how to use those points to stimulate immune health. That’s it. Really super simple, right? That’s one video I would definitely encourage you to do.

Also, those of you that work with herbs, what herbs are in people’s kitchen right now that can help with lung health or coughs or immune health or raising the chi in any way? I am sure you can think of some. Do a video on these kinds of things, okay? Those of you that are frightened about doing any types of video, but you want to do them, again, drop a comment below here and I’ll reach out to you because I’m committed to helping practitioners find success during this time and to overcome some of the fears that are keeping you back because this is the time to not be stagnant, right?

This is the time to tonefy and to move forward, to move your cheese so you can get out there, so when this whole thing is over and it’s going to come to an end and it looks like there’s a silver lining on the clouds right now, for many of us in the different states that we’re at. Things are going to eventually get back to normal for the most part, although there’s going to be things that aren’t going to be as normal as they are right now. I’m encouraging you to tap into these things that might make you feel uncomfortable. Because when you hit up against that wall of discomfort, you know you reached your limit, but moving beyond that is where you need to go. It’s not that hard to do. Okay?

You need support, you need some mentoring, you need some guidance, and maybe even just a short little script or some ideas on how to do that. That’s what we’re here to do and offer you. All right? Technology is really important to tap into, telehealth, putting up some videos, and also email marketing. It is the lowest hanging fruit that you have right now in your practice. Most of you that are listening to this have some semblance of an email list for your patient. Use it. All right? Tap into this knowledge. Again, if you do a video on immune health, you could use that same content to put on your website, to put on your social media pages, and to also put as an email to your patients. Because what else are you doing?

What else are they doing right now? If you’re providing solid content with them that is encouraging and engaging and inspiring, they’ll eat it up. They’ll really enjoy that. Sending emails out to your patients now is really important to stay in top of mind awareness so they don’t forget about you. Because if you’re not doing it, somebody else might be and somebody else is going to be getting in front of them. When this whole thing blows over, they might not come back to you because somebody else kind of captured their attention. Don’t lose their top of mind awareness of you. Okay? You want those people back. All right? The other thing I want to talk about, one of the other actions that you can be taking right now is to tap into your goldmine. Okay?

Now, your goldmine are the people that already know you, like you, and trust you. Those are the patients that you already have in your practice. Now, I want to encourage each and every one of you when I’m done with this video is to write a list of all of your A patients. Your A patients are those patients that you love. Whenever you saw them on your schedule, your energy raised up. You’re like, “Oh my God, I want to clone my practice with every single one of that kind of patient,” right? Those are your A patients, the ones that raise your chi. Now, your C patients, the ones when you see them on your schedule you’re like, oh my god, how am I going to do this? Okay, I can muster up that energy. It’s the end of the day. Okay, I can do this. I can do this, right?

Maybe some of you are giggling right now because you can resonate with that. Make a list of your A patients and call them. Simple conversation to have. Here it is. Hi there, Jeffrey. I am just checking in with you. I miss seeing you here at the clinic, and I just want to see how you and your family are doing during this crazy time. I also want to let you know that there are a couple of new offerings that I’ve been tapping into here at the clinic. We are now offering telehealth, and I’m hosting a class on four points to support immune health. I also want to share with you on certain specific herbs that are really helpful that you probably have in your kitchen that can help support your immunity. That’s the conversation. Just call up your A patients and just check in with them.

In my group mentoring class that I run each month, people are doing that, and the practitioners are surprised that they’re getting such a great feedback from their patients. They’re like, oh my God, thank you so much for reaching out to me. How many other doctors have reached out to you during this time? I mean, I imagine probably none. Okay? For your patients to hear from you when you’re just, “Hey, I’m just checking in and seeing how you and your family are doing. I want to let you know about some really cool offerings that we’re having here at the clinic,” that’s cool. That goes a long way. Make a list of your A patients, reach out to them with a phone call, and then with a follow-up email, simple conversation.

Really that’s all we need to have with them. The other thing I want to talk about would be consider diversifying your offers. Okay? Now, what do I mean by that? By diversifying your offers, what else can you think about that you can offer now and in future times when we might have to close our practices because of this craziness that you can offer? Can you offer herbal consult? Can you learn about EFT tapping techniques? Can you learn about specific acupressure points that you could teach more deeply and more widely? Can you learn about like breathing techniques to stimulate the chi or qigong? Okay?

What kind of off things can you offer now and in the future that you can potentially charge for, that you could teach online classes for when and if we get to this place again where you’re seeing your patients through the internet? Okay? A couple of things that you might want to consider too is offering more retail. When this whole thing is over, one of the things that you could be selling still would be herbs that get drop shipped to your patients and retail like supplements and other types of things from like Emerson Ecologics that you could drop ship to your patients. That’s a great way for you to generate a little bit of income now and to still be in top of mind awareness of your patients.

I want you to ask yourself what kinds of changes can you make today that will manifest for you now and also into the future? Because I think this is going to happen and I want you to be prepared. I don’t want you to get stuck and like become a deer in the headlights at some other point. Okay? I want you to be prepared now. Where can you pivot your practice now in order to come out of this positively in the way? Don’t get stuck. Don’t stop marketing. Don’t stop the communication process now. Stay in top of mind awareness however you can in order for your patients to remember you and to be reminded of all the good things that you have to offer them. Don’t assume that everything’s going to go back to normal because they might not. Okay?

Determine what you can do to survive and thrive during the now and also how you’ll come out of this in a powerful way and into the future. Thank you so much again for the American Acupuncture Council for hosting me on the first training that I’m working with you guys on. Thank you everyone for watching me here. You can reach me at jeffrey@acupuncturemediaworks.com or in the comments below here or even through our websites at acupuncturemediaworks.com or acuperfectwebsites.com. Feel free to reach out to me there. Make sure you join us next week for the next To The Point by the AAC. Thank you guys so much. I really appreciate it. Stay strong, stay connected, stay focused, and do not stagnate. Okay?

Do what you can now in order to manifest your future, so when this whole thing ends, you come out of this smelling like roses. Be strong. Stay healthy. Talk soon. See you next time. Bye, bye.

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Dr. Virginia Doran

The Science Behind Promoting Digestive & Cardiopulmonary Balance with Acupuncture

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– Hi, I’m Virginia Doran, your host for this episode of “To The Point” very generously produced by the American Acupuncture Council. Today our show is called A Fresh Perspective on Zu San Li, Stomach 36, and Neiguan, Pericardium 6. The science behind promoting digestive and cardiopulmonary balance with acupuncture. And I am so honored and pleased that we have as our guest today, Narda Robinson. Narda has a very interesting history and approach with this. She has a Bachelor of Arts from Harvard, Radcliffe, a Doctorate in Osteopathic Medicine, a Doctorate in Veterinary Medicine and Masters Degree in Biomedical Sciences. She’s a Fellow of The American Academy of Medical Acupuncture, Vice Chair of the American Board of Medical Acupuncture and a former member of their board of directors. She has launched the first Integrative Medicine Service at Colorado State University and for eight years has directed Colorado State University’s Center for Comparative and Integrated Pain Medicine. She’s taught a variety of scientifically-based continuing ed courses ranging from medical acupuncture and massage to botanical treatment and photo medicine. She’s a leading authority on Scientific Integrated Medicine from a One Health perspective, having over two decades of practicing, teaching and writing about integrative medicine approaches in both veterinary and human osteopathic medicine. She’s the founder, CEO and Lead Faculty and Course Director for the CuraCore MED and CuraCore VET based in Fort Collins, Colorado. And she’s also the author of a most wonderful book called “Interactive Medical Acupuncture Anatomy”. It’s very comprehensive. She has a very interesting neuroanatomical and evidence-based approach. So I don’t know how she’s done that all in just a couple of decades because it’s really quite formidable her accomplishments. So for anybody who hasn’t seen it or who can possibly get it and now that you’re home staying in place, you might actually have time to read it. I really recommend the book. You can find it on Amazon and see some excerpts there, as well as if you search on Google, you’ll see some highlights from it as well. It really adds to our field by putting a lot of the scientific point-based research altogether with the points in, it’s a book of points basically, and explains with a really comprehensive describing of the neuro, not just neuroanatomy, of all the anatomy that contribute to the points and how that actually affects the uses of it, and basically verifies what we’ve learned from, you know, classical sources. So, I guess how I found the book was a student took my class and he was an osteopath and he came up on a break and he said, “Oh, you have to see this book.” And I was kind of like, “Yeah, yeah, whatever,” he was new at it and I just didn’t expect much. And then he showed me, I was like, “Oh my gosh.” And then I had to buy it. It’s not an inexpensive book, but with the work that’s in it and the information that has been assembled all in one place like that, it’s very valuable book, I really recommend it. It can be used however you think about things, but it can help verify things for your patients and the field of Western medicine. So without further ado I’d like to introduce Narda, and give it to her to explain this from her experience and knowledge which is formidable. So Narda, thank you very much for being here.

– Thank you, thank you Virginia, it’s great to be here. We’ll be talking about, Zu San Li and Neiguan and while I am presenting a big focus on the points themselves, I am going… In clinical practice of course we use other points that are mandated or suggested by the patient’s presentation. So this is though is an opportunity to see how some of the mainstay approaches or the mainstay points such as Stomach 36 and Pericardium 6 work from a neuroanatomic perspective. So as you can see here on the left, we have Pericardium 6 in the forearm and Stomach 36 here on the pelvic limb. And just in a different form here is the individual with a different view of the hand so of course when we move around the point locations change, here’s Stomach 36, in just part of the larger context because when we again want to use these clinically for something like Stomach 36 we might want to treat knee pain, we might want to treat pain in the calf, we might be addressing immune function. But if we are working with something for digestion from my scientific neuroanatomic connective tissue approach, I am going to be interested in how stimulation of this point, whether we’re using needling, pressure, heat, laser, whatever it is, how is that going to affect internal organ function? Because I think that that is one of the perplexing ideas from Chinese medicine where we can say it balances Yin and Yang or moves Qi, but we also have information now on exactly how this is going to affect internal organ function. So the objectives for today are three. We’re gonna review some of the Chinese medicine indications and mechanisms for these two points, we’re going to identify key neuroanatomic connections between each of the points and areas of the spinal cord and, or brain. And describe how knowing the structural underpinnings, which was everything my book was about, but of these two specific points, how we can link that directly to the physiologic outcomes that happen from needling, which I as a clinician, as a veterinarian and an osteopathic physician, I appreciate knowing how the points are going to influence my patient and to know that there’s quite a bit of scientific background and backing for what I’m expecting to see. And I will talk as we go forward about how to search for scientific literature so that when you want to come up with papers that substantiate what you’re doing, that you can see how easy it is to do that. So with the images that I use in this, if they are not from Shutterstock photos that I have it mentioned here, so this is from TCM Wiki. But just looking at the stomach channel as a whole, we can see that there is often described in the Chinese medicine kind of literature, a divergent branch that goes to the organ after which it’s named. I mean I learned acupuncture from I mean a variety of perspectives. The Chinese component, the French energetics, the scientific approach, neuroanatomic connective tissue. So I had that as a background. And so this idea suggests that you have energy or Qi going into the stomach somehow and hence the stomach line is a name. And that maybe the idea from that would be that, okay, you stimulate Qi and somehow there’s a branch that takes that to the organ. But what I’m going to add to that is the knowledge about the actual structures that we can dissect and feel and test that give us objective understanding of what these sites of stimulation will do. So again, this is one of the images from my book and it’s with all the different layers on. Because what happened was this was from the Visible Human Anatomy Database and there were computer animators that put it all back together so that as I was photo editing for 15 years, I could add in muscles or take away muscles and just see vessels and nerves or organs or things like that. So by starting with the points on the surface and then going down and removing the skin layer from photo editing, then I could see the different structures that I would be stimulating as an acupuncturist, plus using neuroanatomic information from other sources as well. But this is Stomach 36, as you would see with the skin gone. And the description being on the anterior aspect of the lower leg, three cun below Stomach 35 which is up here in green and one finger breath from the anterior crest of the tibia, which we can also look at as a tibial tuberosity right here. And this is a cross section which I really appreciated learning by dealing with these cross sections, learning the different depths of muscles and fascia and vessels and nerves once you go into the skin, both from a safety perspective as well as a tissue activation perspective. So here on the left, I have cross section through Stomach 36 and I’m showing that, sometimes I’ll say cranial tibialis ’cause that’s what the terminology is as a vet, but the anterior tibial, and it points to how at least in an individual like the person that made up the Visible Human Database was, how far in depth we can go where it’s safe versus when we start to get into other structures. But the point of this slide being that research has shown also that we have all the different muscle afferents available to us at the point. So groups one, two, three and four, which have different levels of myelination and whether they are mechanoreceptors, so transmitting information about light touch or vibration or the subtle activation from an acupuncture needle or nociceptors, so they don’t have any myelin and they’re more conveying pain. So typically what we are thinking about as far as Stomach 36 for indications are have to do a lot of times with digestive things; gastric pain, vomiting, abdominal distension, diarrhea or constipation. But then some mood-based things, even epilepsy or depression or insomnia. Then of course local things for the knee pain or we have leg weakness or paralysis, maybe even a fibular or used to be called peroneal nerve injury. So just coming into acupuncture, one might think, “Okay, how does one point do all these things?” And so that’s what I loved in the process of those 15 years of putting this book together. Coming from a standpoint of just really relying on the Qi in the Chinese medicine approach with some of the scientific background in there. But then seeing as I would start with the neurologic connections local at the point and then put together where they hit in other reflex zones within the central peripheral or autonomic nervous system. It to me explained the effects that were these conventional indications. And so it didn’t leave anything more for me to wonder about. But just to review that the point Zu San Li changes to Leg Three Miles when we convert that to English, which has a lot of different interpretations that we don’t have time to go into. But the Chinese medicine description is that it will tonify Qi and blood, harmonize and strengthen the spleen and stomach, strengthen the body as a whole, and the Wei Qi raises Yang, calms a Shen, activates the meridian, stops pain. Okay, so that’s quite a bit of complexity there. And so what can we start to see? So–

– You know I always say that Stomach 36 does everything except wash windows.

– Yeah, yeah, that’s good. Or like with laser therapy, sometimes when we lecture, talk about it treats everything but death. So I guess maybe you could, I mean you say it tongue in cheek, but that’s a good point, Virginia, yes. So with Helene Langevin’s work, from the ’90s that the needle-tissue interface has been described as, as you see here being able to wind around the collagen that’s in that connective tissue, and then with that we are deforming fibroblasts which is activating their metabolism, causing them to make all kinds of changes through their structure function, just alterations, but there are also nerves in the vicinity. So while we are doing some connective revisions or interactions causing some fascial relaxation, even several centimeters away, there’s also that profound effect which is on the nerves which is neuromodulation. And that will get us into some of the analgesic effects and some of the autonomics or the parasympathetic, sympathetic or the digestive system, the Yin-Yang general balance. And then just taking this from a website talking about modulation, like what is modulation? Well, it is putting in your own signal that is going to interface with what is already there. And so you are modulating or you are changing the status, the resting tone of what that organism is going through. So that when there’s an imbalance, we can come in with our somatic afferent stimulation, meaning on the surface, the somatic afferent, the afferents, the nerves are coming into the nervous system equation and then we are stimulating it initially, but the body is going to respond with a modulating effect. So we are relying on the intrinsic healing mechanisms, self-maintaining mechanisms of the body to take our input, our somatic afferent stimulation with the needling and do what it normally does, bring it back to normal. So it’s like, “Oh yeah, right, this is what normal is.” And we’ll talk about how that happens. And it’s comprised of some neurotransmitter shifts, whether peripherally or in the spinal cord or in the brain, and then other things that happen with larger brain networks. For the analgesia or the pain relieving approach, we can distill some of it down to what happens from our input. So not a pain causing, that’s where having a nice gentle approach with acupuncture is so important where we’re subtly manipulating the needle and that is going to activate the mechanoreceptors preferentially. And what that means, so those receptors respond to light touch or vibration. Think of just a nice gentle soothing electroacupuncture. These are thicker well myelinated fibers that are important in pain control when they get to this dorsal root ganglion. So they’re the good guys. I mean the ones that convey, they’re also good guys ’cause they convey information, or tissue deformation. But let’s say you had some kind of pain elsewhere or if you needle too aggressively, that is sending information through these other types of fibers, the nociceptors. So we really wanna touch or inputs in the way I teach is to be gentle and well-received. There are gonna be some responses in the dorsal horn of the spinal cord that connect to that hand in this case. And those light touch receptors, the mechanical receptors, I think through the next side we’ll see the gate control idea of pain. They can help shut down pain influencers that are coming into that same location in the spinal cord. Of course the big complexity of the whole thing with acupuncture analgesia is that we’re gonna be affecting the whole brain and different pain networks and the thalamus and limbic system, all kinds of areas with our acupuncture analgesia. But just to distill it down right now we have those three initial areas that we’re concerned about. This is just an expansion of that spinal cord dorsal horn area where if we have acupuncture here, they have skin massage. If we just say that’s acupuncture, acupressure done gently that we’re bringing that information through these mechanoreceptors, the well-myelinated mechanoreceptors coming in here. And they are helping to block the pain impulses from on that same ultimate neuron that’s going to come up and then send impulses to the brain. So that’s just a peripheral way to block the pain impulses. This is a Stock photo. This is not necessarily how I would approach knee pain ’cause I would be tailoring it to the exact expression and location. But in general, this is electroacupuncture and I’m bringing that in because here’s Stomach 36 more or less. And they’re doing a typical four treatment before needling approach around the knee, and took it up to electroacupuncture. So if we look at knee pain, how is Stomach 36 participating in that? Well, there’s some local pain shutting down, so peripherally, but then there’s also going to be affects, I like to consider all the anatomy that’s being affected, but we don’t have really time to go into that much here. But there’s also even for knee pain going to be impulses that are going into the spinal cord so that ascending to the spinal cord and brain that are also going to be pain alleviating. And so that’s important to know from a neuroanatomic perspective ’cause we can reinforce that with points on the back and the spine that will help shut down pain information that’s being communicated in the relevant levels of the spinal cord and really reduce what we call peripheral sensitization of nerves that are going to the knee. But it’s never really knee pain. It’s we, I as an osteopath and a veterinarian, I mean we look at the whole body and what are the compensatory biomechanical alterations? Where are the myofascial restrictions? It’s really a whole body kind of thing that in clinical appreciation. But if we’re talking about digestion, one of the things that we can be aware of is that Stomach 36 afferent information is coming into the cord at the sort of the lumbosacral junction. And so when impulses arrive into the cord, there’s something called somatovisceral and visceralsomatic reflexes that we’ll look at as the next slide. Then there’s another component that goes to the brain that will cover. But seems a little bit confusing here. But let’s say we have a dysfunctional viscous, so a problematic organ in on our belly somewhere and that is sending afferent pain impulses into the cord. If those go unabated then we could get tenderness to palpation. This is the whole rationale with the diagnostic exam with the Back-Shu and Front-Mu points. So that is crosstalking with somatic or muscles, skin and subacute areas so that we get essentially spinal reflexes that are originating in a viscera of viscous. And then having a somatic presentation where we can go along the back and find tenderness to palpation and think, “Okay, is that local on the back “or is that from something inside?” And we put that together with the whole patient presentation. So there are lots of reflexes like that to consider whether we’re coming from a viscous and going into the muscles or we would come from the muscles and the external. So if we’re doing a treatment and we are involving low back points, then through these reflexes working the other way, somatovisceral reflexes, we can help to shut down some of that internal pain. So that is why I would use those baby back points in addition to a Stomach 36, I’d be palpating and seeing what’s involved. But here are typical bladder points that are associated with the spinal nerves that in my framework that somatic afferent stimulation is being picked up by the spinal nerves going into the spinal cord and having repercussions there as well as going to the brain. But if we’re talking about where’s that impulse from Stomach 36 coming, then we talked about local peripheral nerve effects very briefly ’cause of not much time and then spinal cord effects and reflexes. But then we’re gonna go up to the brain and this is really what explains a whole bunch of Stomach 36 effects. There’s a little site in the brain stem in the medulla called the nucleus tractus solitarius. Here’s just the brain stem looking at that. And the interesting thing about this brain stem center is it sits side by side with this vagus nerve, which is actually longer than this. And the vagus nerve is what is covering, you know that’s doing most of our parasympathetic nervous system. So versus the sympathetic system, which is fight or flight, this is more you’re vegging out, restorative, calming down kind of thing. And so it has effects that are going to balance out that fight or flight sympathetic system. So it’s gonna slow your heart rate, it’s going to help digestion flow and all the secretions from the gland, stimulate bile release, help regulate blood glucose, help you with elimination and digestion and all that. And for the cognitive effects, I mean, vagus nerve stimulation, so this parasympathetic medic effect is so good that it’s like they implanted vagus nerve stimulators for things like depression and epilepsy and different things. But it’s like we have the ability with Stomach 36 and some other points to actually give parasympathetic benefits because of these long loop reflexes that we now understand. And these are… So the nucleus track, the solitarius is one of the two main somatoautonomic convergence sites. What do we mean by that? This is where the somato, so the somatic input from Stomach 36 is going to join at this site in the brain stem called the nucleus tractus solitarius with inputs from the vagus nerve. So 80% of the vagus nerve that’s coming into the brain, which we just saw a bit ago, is afferent information. So the brain really needs to know a whole bunch of information about what’s going on elsewhere. And so that is coming into this site, the nucleus tractus solitarius along with information from the body of which the Stomach 36 has a nice big connection there. And then it’s like this operator here. So if she’s the nucleus tractus solitarius, she’s getting information from the Soma, which could be Stomach 36, and the viscera, which is your guts and things, and then making decisions. So, what she has to do is, well what she does, who knows how this all happen, but it because of her side-by-side connection to the vagus nerve, the nucleus tractus solitarius can up or down regulate vagal nerve output. So that means if you have constipation, you can change it and the vagus nerve can change its activity so that it speeds up digestion. So this is a structural piece of how, might call it Yin-Yang balance, but it’s how our body keeps things stable. Our temperature, our blood pressure relatively, we have these real estate centers in our brain that are in command of doing all this and keeping us alive on a day-to-day basis. And it’s really very amazing that we know this and that we can have pathways with acupuncture to deal with it. So Stomach 36 for GI problems. It’s that homeostatic balance whether we’re dealing with the long loop reflexes to the brain stem or and the lumbar segments as well. So it’s a way that we can understand how even disorders like this, which is our representation of inflammatory bowel disease. When the nucleus tractus solitarius is not doing its thing, then there is a, and with its parasympathetic effects for the vagal nerve, then things can get out of balance. And when the sympathetic nervous system, the fight or flight area takes over too much, then we get a pro-inflammatory state. So not just fire or too much Yang but its actual inflammatory state and if it’s going to affect the GI track, then we can get an inflammatory bowel condition. So by having Stomach 36 in there, then we are pushing the balance of the body to a parasympathetic level, calming things down. So if you just go to pubmed.gov you can do, see this as well. And all I did was I did Stomach 36 and NTS for nucleus tractus solitarius. And you can see various research articles, you can select for free full text if you want so that you can get this whole article for free. It’s online shopping. You don’t have to take out your credit card. So there are so many studies that support this idea that it’s a great way to move forward and to be evidence-based with acupuncture. So we just have a few minutes and just–

– You want to, I don’t know how much you have to speak about Pericardium.

– Okay

– Do you want, anything else to, you wanna discuss about Stomach 36 and do Pericardium 6 another time? Or do you wanna move on?

– No. I think we can show like that there’s another point that has similar effects.

– Okay.

– But I think we’re good. Because it has a different brain stem center for the most part and a different, I don’t know, just clinical applications. So Neiguan, Pericardium 6, again, instead of just thinking maybe there’s an energy connection there, we can look at here and its proximity to the median nerve and indication. Some of which overlap. So the nausea, vomiting piece, that’s because the fibers from the median nerve, from PC6 ultimately go to a very nearby center in the brain stem. It’s called the rostral ventrolateral medulla. But a lot of fibers go there. But some of them go to the nucleus tractus solitarius, which for me explains the GI piece here. But otherwise we’ve got cardiopulmonary indications and we can see how Chinese medicine explains it. But if we look at the science and begin again at the site, just like with Stomach 36, we know that there’s muscles and tissues and fascia and bones and here’s a cross section and especially that median nerve is nearby. But when we get to the rostral ventrolateral medulla, which is not far from the nucleus tractus solitarius, we it… that site is more concerned with cardiac, just antiarrhythmic effects and the pulmonary influences. That’s why it’s this master point for the chest. And so we look at a paper like this, for example, “Cardioprotective effects “of transcutaneous electrical acupuncture point “stimulation on perioperative elderly patients “with coronary heart disease” showing that just to cut to the chase here, that electroacupuncture at PC6 and PC4 can reduce postoperative troponin concentration so limiting heart damage and change the autonomic balance to a much improved state. And PC4 makes sense here because that was right along the median nerve if you saw that in the picture from my book before. It’s median nerve stimulation that hooks up to long loop reflexes in the brain. Here’s “The effectiveness of PC6 acupuncture “for the prevention of postoperative nausea “and vomiting in children” Again, just seeing that yes, there are brain stem connections and that is what helps us understand how physiologically, how anatomically we’re put together so that we can understand that you stimulate here and you get effects kind of body-wide or internally, and we’re not sticking needles in organs. To me it helps to really understand this wiring diagram. So the key points of all this are the anatomy or structure and physiology or function are inextricably interrelated. It’s with architecture and it’s with acupuncture and anatomy. So the more we know about the anatomy of the acupuncture points and their physiologic effects, that’s how we can better understand what the Chinese acupuncturists from way back when and Japanese and whoever else was doing acupuncture back then. They might’ve described it using metaphorical language, but if so inclined one can also understand a lot of it now scientifically. And that then informs my needling protocols, because I can take what my hands say, what my heart says and what my mind says and make treatment protocols that are very tailored to my patient based on what I feel, what I know and just a certain level of intuition but not having to have just a belief somewhere, but really having a clear expectation with objective endpoints that I can rely on. So with that , I am ready for any further questions or if you’d like, you can email me at narda@curacore.org.

– Yeah, I think, I don’t know, Alan, you can tell us if there’s any questions or if we’ll leave that for after the show. But there’s just so much you’ve presented . That’s why I couldn’t look up at the camera. I was like, my eyes were glued to the slides. Well I think we’ll, in this case, I hope you can come back another time because I feel like we’ve just touched on the surface of something’s really interesting. Some people will ask questions and they can be addressed after the show. Thank you again for coming and thank you to the American Acupuncture Council and to all our viewers and hope to see you next time. All right, bye now.

– Bye bye.

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Brian Lau and Matt Callison

Telemedicine Guide: A Low Back Case Study Matt Callison & Brian Lau

Hello and thanks for joining us today. This is the first of a series of webinars that we’re going to be doing discussing issues, topics, and featuring guests in sports and orthopedic acupuncture.

I’m here with my colleague, Matt Callison. Many of you probably know Matt. Matt’s been around for a long time. He’s sort of a fixture, especially in the sports acupuncture community. Many of you probably know him from various articles and books that he’s written. Matt is the President of AcuSport Education. He’s also the President of Sports Medicine Acupuncture Certification. He’s recently published his lifelong, really, work, it’s been over multiple decades of work, the Sports Medicine Acupuncture: An Integrated Approach Combining Sports Medicine and Traditional Chinese Medicine. Really a monumental amount of work, so a lot of congratulations goes to Matt. It’s going to be a game changer for the field. It’s so nice to see such important work coming out in field.

So, I’ve been working with Matt, initially as a student, when I took the program Sports Medicine Acupuncture Certification. Then I was asked to teach in 2014, quite an honor for me. Fortunately, despite the fact that the program is an incredible program, Matt gave me a lot of flexibility to also add and integrate information that I had coming from my field in structural integration, also in my work with qi gong and tai chi and tendon changing.

We worked to integrate a lot of work to build a model for the channel sinews. I’ve written quite a bit about the channel sinews. We feature a lot of that work in the Sports Medicine Acupuncture Certification.

We’ll start today. Matt’s going to set us up and discuss the case study for low back pain.

Brian, thank you very much, but the honor is mine just to be able to work with you, seriously. You are not only a brilliant academic, but you’ve got that combination of a true clinician and also an academic, so it’s great to be able to call you my friend as well.

Can we start the slides? Why don’t we actually go to the first slide here. Let’s talk about a quick, brief history of what we’re about to see here. This webinar is an abridged version of a blog article and also an accompanying video that shows highlights of our experience with developing, designing, and working through some of the logistical issues of a telemedicine consultation.

Initially, the information in this article and video that you can find on the Sports Medicine Acupuncture website, www.sportsmedicineacupuncture.com, blog article and also video in the April issue. It was initially intended to be presented as a live webinar, so this was like a trial run for us. We wanted to have a live webinar that contained the content for students and graduates of the SMAC program. It was intended to be a review of the recently completed module two, which was the low back, hip, and groin, held in New Jersey, which was right before actually New Jersey closed its door and the COVID-19 shutdown.

Our intention with this is try and be able to show practitioners how to apply some of the principles taught in SMAC and also our experience through telemedicine format, which was brand new for us. We wanted to go through the logistics of it and help practitioners to learn from what our mistakes and what was the best way of setting up patients, lighting, making sure the patient has consent forms, preparing the space for the patient. All of those categories that you see in the bullets here is in that article with explanation as well.

Now, the reason why we decided to publish this trial run was because the surge of demand for telemedicine consultations, we decided just to get it out there. When you do see the video, I really apologize because, like we said, this was a trial run. It was not intended to go public, and I just got out of bed. I don’t think I brushed my teeth. I have bed head. You can tell that this was a rough run for us. Brian, he’s always beautiful looking, so I’m not going to apologize for him at all with that.

Yeah, my hair looked about the same in this one as it did in this test.

What you’re about to see now, this next slide is going to be a video. The blog article and video contains us observing a patient with low back pain, which is something that practitioners could go ahead and do, asking her to perform static and functional assessments so that we get a working hypothesis of her injury and eventually develop a diagnosis, a virtual diagnosis, really.

Then, we can develop an acupuncture and motor point prescription for self-massage acupressure, and then prescribing corrective exercises based on her postural anomalies that we saw through the assessments.

Again, this short webinar is going to be the highlights of what you can find on the video and on the article. Should we go right into the video? Yeah, let’s do that.

Yeah.

It feels like here.

Okay.

And, that kind of feels bilateral.

That’s good.

[crosstalk 00:06:23]

That’s like a facet joint sign, okay.

When I walk, it’s more here.

Yeah.

And then it could even go straight in here. This whole line even here and it goes into this ischial tuberosity.

All right, so with that, listening to the patient, describe this. Brian do you want to go ahead and share our thought process with that?

Yeah, I mean of course she’s just said a few words, she kind of gave a pathway of where the pain is. A couple of simple things. But you should already be starting to think what could be causing the pain, where is this next pain site coming from? And we haven’t tested yet, we haven’t done anything to rule out things or we haven’t done anything to confirm ideas. But already just from the body language, how she was saying it spreads across the back, that’s a very typical sign of facet joint injury. The referral that she was showing down, maybe not lumbar disc involvement, based on just going down to the behind, but we should definitely rule it out and check for it. Thoracolumbar junction syndrome is a common injury that’s becoming more common. Based on the pathway of pain as you’ll see in the coming up slides, that could be an issue. Sacroiliac joint injury could be an issue and also soft tissue strain. So again, we have to rule these out or confirm them, but they’re just preliminary thoughts based on her explanation of the pain.

Okay, good. So the postural observations. We observed the patient in a static and also functional positions. In the static position we asked the patient to move from left and right, so we could see the lateral view, look at the posterior view, look at the anterior sides. Just trying to gain as much information as possible. From there we surmised that the patient had the following postural disparities. She has, what would look like a bilateral anterior pelvic tilt, it was greater on the right. Slight posterior tilt of the ribcage. An anterior hip shift that we’re going to be talking about a little bit more real soon here and it’s relevance to qi and blood deficiency and kidney qi deficiency.

On the posterior view we could surmise that she’s got an elevated right ilium, also known as a left pelvic tilt. We could also see a left tilt of the L4-L5 vertebrae, which really helped to confirm the elevated ilium. Additional postural imbalances to check in the second and third office visit could be looking at the head, the scapula, the knee the feet positions and also the possible contributions to overall postural and myofascial imbalances.

Because this is a telemedicine conference, it was a little challenging to look at the entire picture, but we want to be able to see as much as we possibly could and design a protocol for her so we can get her out of pain. And like we said we can look at the other aspects on the second and third visit.

Brian we’ve got a video coming up here. Let’s go ahead and show that and do you want to chat afterward?

Sure.

What I see is an anterior hip shift.

Yeah, me too.

I see a possible pelvic rotation to the right.

A little bit of the ribcage coming back, it’s not extreme, but a little bit of the kidney qi, qi and blood deficiency posture.

I agree. Should we look at her other side?

Sure. Yeah more noticeable this side is the traction.

What I see is-

So, first of all the video clip doesn’t show the whole picture, because this was our first chance to look at her from the side view. And if you caught this Matt was talking when I was talking, that was maybe he did the recording, but not just this moment. So when we did the recording, the first time lining up sometimes you don’t see things correctly and now we have the added challenge of having a video camera and maybe the angle not being set up properly. Matt mentioned it looks like there was a right rotation to the pelvis as if the pelvis is turning and looking to the right. But as we switched over to the left, if that video would have played longer you would’ve heard us say, “No it actually looks like a left rotation.” And all the other assessments we’re doing later on we confirm that left rotation. Pelvis looking to the left.

The other main thing we’re talking about is this anterior hip shift where, if you look at this images on the screen now, especially the second image. Second and third you really see it, but the second image is the most like patient you’ll be working with. The hip is shifting anterior to a line that’s dropping through gallbladder 40. This anterior hip shift can have multiple implications, but when the ribcage starts going backwards, that’s consistent with people who have signs and symptoms of kidney qi deficiency, qi and blood deficiency. Matt presented on this information at the Pacific Symposium before, we can’t go into the whole details in the time frame that we have today, but each of these postures have a strong correlation with the various zang organ pathologies that are listed underneath them.

So this patient was most like, maybe not as severe as number two, but most like the kidney qi, qi and blood deficiency posture. I think we can go to the next slide, unless you wanted to add something to that, Matt?

Yeah, something real quick. When you see postures like this, you can pretty much predict what the tongue and the pulse is going to end up being, which is really a great thing. That helps the practitioner to direct their questioning to what organs could be contributing to this type of posture. This was a lot of research, I started in 2010, I presented at 2011 symposium and also in 2019. We talk about it in a module in the SMAC program, it itself is its own webinar for sure.

We asked the patient to show us her tongue and lighting was a big issue with this. When there was poor lighting, you can’t be able to see the tongue very well, so she was able to move her device closer to a window and we were able to see… Now obviously this is a screenshot from the video, so you can’t see it very well, but when you look at the video, that’s online at the website you can clearly see a pale tongue, teeth marks qi and blood deficiency in that tongue. Also, what’s helpful, if you have a white card you could put that card right next to the tongue, it gives a little color differentiation as well. Let’s go to the next slide. Brian you want to go for that?

Yeah, so I’ll just follow up to the tongue. The rest of the video is going to be focusing on posture, focusing on orthopedic evaluation, functional tests, that kind of stuff, which in enough themselves are testing the channel sinews. But if this was a full evaluation, and the video doesn’t reflect this, because it was really set up as a webinar for a review for low back and hip injuries. As Matt said you’d be asking questions based on multiple things that we were looking at, so looking at a full picture. We’re going to go back now to look at some of the indications that we saw from where she had pain. We both didn’t think that there was lumbar disc involvement with it, but it’s good to be thorough and rule it out.

We have the patient get on the floor and do a straight leg raise. Normally in clinic you would do this to the patient, but she was able to bring her leg up, it was negative. We asked her to do a passive one, which is more like the test you would do clinically, if the practitioner was doing it and again it was negative, but it was good to rule out that there didn’t seem to be any signs of lumbar disc involvement based on straight leg raise.

And if, by chance this was going to be a positive test, the practitioner would need to guide the patient through the different steps of straight leg raise. All right so let’s go to the next one.

Okay, so we were thinking that, with this particular video that you saw and with information that’s coming, facet joint injury seemed like it was going to be more the primary pain generator. Again, we’re just on a working hypothesis right now. We asked the patient to perform lumbar extension, because the facet joints usually get aggravated with extension. Because she has a bilateral anterior pelvic tilt, she’s already going to have a jamming of those facet joints. So the picture is really starting to make sense.

There’s two common body movements when describing facet joint pain that patients will commonly do. One is you’ll see there on the left where a fist or some kind of indication there at the spine and also that body language of starting at the spine and then going out lateral. So I believe we’ve got another video that we can watch to go see more information.

Matt, before you switch that. Just to highlight, also Matt mentioned the bilateral anterior tilt, also the elevation of the right ilium that she gets into when we look at the postural assessment. But you can see it in both those views, I would start to side bend the lumbar spine to the right and also approximate those facets on the right, which is primarily where she was describing the pain.

Yeah, good, thanks Brian. Okay, ready video?

Can you go into extension please? Does that cause pain?

Yeah, a little bit.

And where’s the pain?

Right there.

Can you go into extension please-

Okay, she already did. I have it on loop. All right, so she indicated, so we’re kind of leaning more toward facet joints. So let’s use some more examinations that can aggravate the facet. Do you want to talk about stork standing Brian?

I’ll let you continue with it, because it’s kind of a similar theme to the extension.

All right, so a stork standing test. You’re going to have to describe to your patient how to perform these tests, and this particular one because it requires balance is to have them close to a wall or a chair of course would be very useful. In stork standing test you can see how she’s going into lumbar extension and also rotation. This particular image on the left is aggravated the pain. Now here, what’s really interesting, she didn’t take her fist and put it into the spine at all, she actually went lateral. Where she’s indicating there is giving us a lot of information. So let’s go to the next slide and Brian we can start chatting about that and then set the sinew channels. Or maybe we should just say it now, do you want to describe the three sinew channels there that can be-

Yeah, so in the Sports Medicine Acupuncture Certification program we talk about… First of all we have a very developed model of the channel sinews and when you look at the descriptions or you look at images and there’s a line across the body, it doesn’t give the precise anatomy, we’re working on a model to really hone in on what particular structures are in which channel.

So when she points to an area like this, you might be pointing to the iliocostalis lumborum, that would be on the urinary bladder channel, part of the continuous myofascial plane up the body, from foot to head. Maybe deeper, because she’s also at the attachment of the quadratus lumborum at the top end. The quadratus lumborum would be on a continuous myofascial plane which is part of the liver sinew channel. And there’s also a plane of tissue that’s coming up through the quadriceps and up through the abdominals and to the side and into and wrapping around to the back, which forms a seam where all the fascia come together, that’s called the lateral raphe. And that’s affected and part of the stomach sinew channel. So there’s really three potential sinew channels that this one little spot can be pointed op based on the precise location in the back.

So this helps a lot because the practitioner’s now starting to think about those three different channels and what acupressure points that we can be able to use. Xi-cleft, luo points, for example. In order to be able to move qi and blood. Brian, I just noticed that we’re kind of running behind, because we love talking about this so much, but it’s such a short webinar. So I’m going to fly through these next four, and then we’ll get you back up on that rotation, is that all right?

Okay, sure.

So here we’ve got the injury assessment. If you look at the image on the left, these are lumbar facet joint referral patterns. So this is where the actual facet joint itself, when it’s degenerative can be able to have its own referral patterns. You can see she’s indicating the areas of L3-L4, L4-L5, possibly L5-S1. Knowing these patterns, we’re really starting to go down the road of this injury coming from facet joint, having postural imbalances which lead to myofascial sinew channel imbalances.

In addition, is that her tracing going into the gluteal area and also toward the greater trochanter, it could be thoracolumbar junction syndrome. The assessment for this is for the practitioner to actually be there on site and trying to be able to provoke that thoracolumbar junction syndrome pain by doing some mobilizations of the spine. We can’t do that, obviously so we have to try to be able to see it. When we had her go into a lumbopelvic rhythm, what we noticed on the image to the right, you can see the thoracolumbar junction of T11-T12, L1-L2 kind of pops up a little bit. It actually goes into extension. When she was moving into trunk flexion, that part of her spine actually didn’t move as well, and popped up. That could be a sign of a possibility of instability in the region, causing thoracolumbar junction syndrome. We put that into our back pocket as part of the assessment.

The practitioner can also examine the sacroiliac joint with various functional exams. We weren’t thinking it was going to be SI joint, but we might as well. We ran her through a number of different examinations for the sacroiliac joint. Practitioners that are experienced with this, you know that these particular examinations can also provoke pain in other places. Your idea’s trying to provoke pain in the sacroiliac joint, and see if that’s going to be positive, but each one of these exams also caused other pain that was indicative of possibly facet joint or hip joint problem.

And actually I don’t think it did cause SI joint pain, specifically.

Yeah, none of them did. The lower image on the right is Gillet’s test, which is a video that we’re going to show you right now. This is an easy one for a practitioner to do with a patient. Let’s show you this Gillet’s test, you’ll see that it’s positive on the left.

You really see the elevated ilium om the right, so lateral tilt of the pelvis. You can see L4-L5 tilting to the left. And then coming back to midline around L3?

Yeah that’s what it looks like. It doesn’t seem to go up really high.

Uh-huh (affirmative). So, Lily can you weight bear on one leg and then on the opposite leg, raise it at least 90 degrees, slowly. A little bit higher. Okay, thank you and down. Yeah there it is. So you could see that left hip innominate bone raising up. Brian do you want to take it from here?

Yeah, so the Gillet’s was positive on the left, the PSIS wasn’t able to drop down when she brought the hip into flexion. That does show that there is a jamming of the SI joint. We’re moving on now to looking at rotation. Rotation would just be a functional test. There would give us some ideas of imbalances of the channel sinews in the body, but it could also suggest things like thoracolumbar junction syndrome.

We’ve confirmed through postural assessment that she had a left rotation of the pelvis, the pelvis is turning to the left. It’s very typical then that the torso would start turning back towards the right. We have a seated test to be able to confirm this. Because if she has the torso turning back to the right, the tissue shortens in a way that allows her to turn more easily to the right, and it starts to pull on that shortening of tissues and the abdominal obliques as she turns to the left.

You can see as she turns to the right she has greater range of the motion. As she turns to the left she is not able to turn as far. The patient mentioned herself that she felt like she couldn’t turn as far to the left. That indicates a right rotation of the trunk in relationship to the pelvis. There are certain tissues that are associated with that shortness.

The other test on the right where she has her hands out is starting to involve more of the lats. As she turns to the left, the right latissimus dorsi has to lengthen, and she has limited range of motion, she should be able to turn about 80 to 90 degrees. Then we have her cross the left ankle over the right knee, which starts to engage the glutes and multiple things could happen. In her case she was able to turn a little bit more, suggests an inhibition of the glute max. Those tissues, the lats to the contralateral glute max communicate with each other through the thoracolumbar fascia and they can form a sort of sling through the body that can have dysfunction.

So we have shortness in the right lats, there’s actually shortness in the left lats too, which you don’t see because in the still she’s not turning in that direction. Then there’s suggestion of inhibited glute max. I think we can go to the next one.

Good. So the diagnosis and what we’ve found so far with the patient is, because of her posture and also from the TCM differential diagnosis questioning that we do not have on the video, something that practitioners can go ahead and do of course, looking at the zang organs. Kidney qi and qi and blood deficiency is her posture and also her tongue did support that as well. The questions that we had supported that as well. Long term knee pain and so on and so forth. I don’t want to go into this because our time is flying by as my light source just flew by.

Here we are. So let’s just go back. So we’ve got a right elevated ilium and myofascial channel imbalances. If it’s alright you can see that this image on the right is an anterior view, what we’ve been showing you is a posterior view. There is a particular combination of locked long abductors and locked short abductors. Locked long adductors, locked short adductors. With liver jingjin and gallbladder jingjin that has its own protocol, not only with acupuncture, but also with corrective exercises. Brian I know we could talk about this all day, but we have to keep moving.

Okay.

Brian do you want to do this one?

So this is just reviewing what we just talked about, really. That there’s rotation, the pelvis going to the left so that would mean your right ASIS is forward and the whole pelvic structure is turning to the left. And then the torso is coming back to the right. You can almost see at liver 13, the left side going down to about gallbladder 27 on the right, towards the ASIS on the right. That line from left to right ASIS is shorter than it is from the right liver 13 to the left ASIS. That shows that shortening in the obliques and that kind of tightening and screwing, and like a jar tightened too much it starts to put compression into the trunk and into the spine. So we want to unwind her with the exercises and acupressure. Also, with self-massage you want to untwist that jar if it’s too tight.

Brian wouldn’t that this is a common finding to have a pelvic rotation, also a trunk rotation?

Yeah. When the pelvis is rotated to the left, it’s unlikely that the person’s going to be working and steering themselves over to that direction. So somewhere it’s going to come back to midline, most often the trunk. If things are really locked up I guess it could be the neck, or somewhere else, but it’s more often than not it’s going to be the trunk that starts to come back on midline. It’s just part of the way that the body finds balance when there’s injury that caused imbalance, overuse or whatever it is. It’s just the way the body gets itself oriented back to the front.

This is a common posture found in low back pain. Next, here we go. Bilateral anterior pelvic tilt, more on the right. That tells us point prescription gallbladder 39 and a half and liver 4, which we really need to be able to get to soon here. We’ve got possible thoracolumbar junction syndrome. I talked about earlier, watching the lumbopelvic rhythm, seeing that thoracolumbar junction pop up, not moving smoothly in the lumbopelvic rhythm. We’re looking at a L2 to L4 region facet joint from the patient’s description of the pain and also the referral pattern and worse with extension. Actually flexion makes it better and alleviates some of the pain, so we can put that in our back pocket as far as giving corrective exercises.

The treatment plan protocol with this, putting it all together. Of course strengthen kidney qi and systemic qi and blood with this, we’ve got to be able to do this so that we can be able to hold the treatments. Otherwise, the patient just won’t hold the treatment, we’ve got to build the internal to help the external. We need to balance the postural deviations. By balancing the posture deviations it’s going to help with the pulley lever system, the musculoskeletal system, but it would also decrease the amount of internal torsion of the organs. Let’s think about also what postural disparities do to the internal organs. Decrease pain in the UB, stomach and gallbladder jingjin of the low back. That’s what we saw from the assessment.

The treatment protocol, we’re going to give acupressure prescriptions. There are ways of doing acupressure, you can find some suggestions that we have in the blog article on sportsmedicineacupuncture.com. Dietary recommendations we normally can do this. Chinese herbal medicine, let’s make sure that we can send the patient the Chinese herbs. Corrective exercises which we have the patient go ahead and do, we watch them do the exercises, make sure they’re performing them. And also qi gong exercises would be wonderful to be able to show the patient. I’m going to give a little highlight to Brian here. He’s teaching, three times a week, some really wonderful qi gong classes. If you wanted more information on that anatomyofthesinewchannels.com. You can actually have your patient go to that, it’s excellent I’ve been doing it with him for a long time, it’s really great, Brian’s an excellent teacher with this.

Oh thanks, Matt. It’s sinewchannels.com but the blog is called Anatomy of the Sinew Channels, but I don’t think that will bring it up, just sinewchannels.com will have the schedule on it. Thanks for mentioning that.

Let’s go into the acupressure point protocol. You want to start that off?

These are based on the assessment that we had, so gallbladder 41, San Jiao 5, is on the left. For multiple reasons you could think about for the channel sinews, but specifically for the Gillet’s test. Those points will change a positive Gillet’s. We do this in sports medicine acupuncture of course with needles, where we’ll do it just to highlight this where somebody has a positive Gillet’s, we put those points in and it changes instantly. That’s the good news, the problem is those by themselves, you take them out or you have the person massage them and they got it changed and they walked around for a second and came back. The positive Gillet’s will often come back. So by themselves these points have an influence on the movement of the sacrum and the movement of the SI joint, but it needs to be reinforced with a full, comprehensive treatment. It’s going to be part of the treatment, nonetheless.

I’ll go ahead and take the next one too Matt, we have kidney 3 and kidney 4. In this case you want to massage that whole region and affect the kidney low channel, because that goes through the region of the facet, it’s probably having a strong effect on the deep lumbar multifidi muscles. That can be a really good combination to reduce pain in the facets, also with the kidney qi and qi blood deficiency signs, this would be a good combination, working with that aspect too. Particularly on the right, but we have the bilateral because we weren’t able to in and palpate and put our finger right on, let’s say it was a facet in L3 or L4 that’s causing the pain, we weren’t able to go and confirm that with palpation. So we just went ahead and included that bilateral in this treatment.

I’m not sure if we’re still live or not, because it’s after the time left, so I don’t know if just you and I are doing this or if everybody’s still there. I don’t know. We’ll try to fly through this as fast as possible, because I know we’re very strict on time here.

We’re on still.

Oh, okay. Spleen 3, stomach 4 being the source or luo point combination which helps with the abdominal muscles. UB 58, liver 5, stomach 40, as we know luo points that can be able to move qi and blood through those channels when we saw the patient indicating with her fist on the lateral aspect of her back, looking at the iliocostalis, the lateral raphe tissue and the quadratus lumborum. We’re looking at the luo points there to try to be able to change that pain pattern.

Using gallbladder 39.5, which is located halfway between 39 and 40, in addition to liver 4, does decrease the innominate bone of an anterior pelvic tilt. That’s been shown numerous times, we’ve got a YouTube video on that and there’s a whole story behind that, how I was able to come up with that. Another day, another story.

You’ve got a classic point combination to be able to tonify qi and blood, calm the spirit and also move liver qi there from the liver 3, spleen 6, P6, stomach 36, LI 10. Yoga tune up balls are excellent to be able to have your patient get them. The link for them is going to be in the contact, it’s the very last slide of this presentation. We can also have that person do some massage with yoga tune up balls there, or a foam roller if you’d like. Also, having do yoga tune up balls or a foam roller on the piriformis motor point, bilateral will help to set the structure well.

Matt, I know we don’t have a lot of time, I just want to mention this will take a second, one thing. That resource it’s in the slide, but the blog post which really has the full case study on sportsmedicineacupuncture.com, and the video on our YouTube channel has the full case study, the full video. And all of those resources are listed both on the YouTube video in the description, but also in the blog posts. I think that’s what people will have… You won’t be getting the slides for the presentation, because this is very truncated, better off to look at the old blog posts, it has all the information.

Excellent, that’s a good point, thanks Brian. The corrective exercises for the initial visit. We prescribe the exercises to prioritize the patient’s postural imbalances that’s contributing to the pain. The patient had disparities which was a bilateral anterior pelvic tilt that we saw, an elevated ilium, which is going to offset the lumbars and increase facet joint jamming with an anterior pelvic tilt. And also the pelvic and the trunk rotation, we need to be able to try to be able to change that as fast as possible.

These exercises help to balance the structural deviations by activating the biao-li pairs, the internal external pairs of UB and kidney, liver and gallbladder and spleen and stomach. This is in our thought process, not only by prescribing exercises to the core and to postural anomalies or dysfunctions, but what’s happening with the myofascial sinew channels and how they communicate.

As discussed previously, also having the patient apply acupressure massage to the suggested points prior to the exercise helps the proprioceptive signaling. How do we know that, because we do that in the SMAC program. We see that consistently by using intradermal needles on points and how it changes the exercise before and after, dramatically. That’s a big one, have your patient perform these right before the exercises, that would be really good.

Here are some of the exercises that we were giving. The exercise on the left here is figure for a cross-over which is an excellent exercise to work on the liver and the gallbladder sinew channels and decrease that elevated ilium. The center image is a foam roll on some ashi points on the lock sure glute medius side, excess, localized gallbladder sinew channel. And then strengthening the weakened gallbladder sinew channel on the opposite side with some clam shells. This is not all the exercises, this is just a highlight. All of the exercises for this particular patient is in the blog article on the website, so there you can be able to see the whole thing, again this is just the highlights.

Brian do you want to say anything real quick before we go-

No, I think we’re probably getting close to time. I think that’s the last slide just real quick on the prognosis.

The prognosis, make sure in the follow up visits is in the next few days that they’re doing the exercises correctly. You want to make sure that the posture and the orthopedic and the functional exams are hopefully about 20 to 30 percent better. It’s a positive sign, also when the patient is not tracing that referral pain. They’re not doing that body language of tracing down her buttock or into the greater trochanter. Maybe it’s just going to be more localized in the back. So it’s not peripheralization, it’s now centralization which is a much better sign.

Make sure that they’ve received herbs in the mail, make sure they’re doing the dietary changes, are they doing their qi gong exercises that Brian has…

I know we’re flying through this real quick, we didn’t have very much time, but we have to go ahead and say thank you very much to the American Acupuncture Council for hosting this webinar, we really appreciate that. And also to Lesley Spencer that took a lot of time with the video and putting it all together. Brian to you as well, this was not a one day feed, this was not a two day feed or a week. We put a lot of work into this and we really hope that it helps practitioners to gain some insight to be able to help their patients during this very challenging time. Brian?

Thanks Matt, and we have the guests coming next week?

Virginia Duran?

Virginia Doran, yes. So tune in next week for that and we will be back then in a few episodes and probably with a guest and we’ll be looking at some more topics within the sports and orthopedic acupuncture world.

I want to say one more thing, there’s a lot of digital formats that are out there, platforms that you can be able to use for telehealth, telemedicine. Unified Practice subscribers, they have one that’s brand new, they’ve worked out all of the kinks, it’s actually working really well and it’s free to Unified Practice subscribers. So you might want to check that out. Zoom is a popular one, it’s got really nice features, but if you’re already a subscriber to Unified Practice you might want to go ahead and just give them a jingle and contact them and see what they have.

Thank you everybody, we really appreciate all your time.

Yes, thank you.

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